(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[British Title Match ]PW[Matthew Macfadyen]PB[Hui Wang]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2009-09-26]RO[Game Three]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[dd]C[(Matthew) This version of the game record includes all Liyue's commects,  a few orphan lines have been deleted, and a few extra variations of mine have been added]
;W[dn]C[liyue [-\]: Good morning everybody :-)
maproomad [-\]: Goo morning liyue, and thank you for giving this commentary
liyue [-\]: I am honored to be here commenting this exciting game :-)
liyue [-\]: i believe it is going to be a difficult one for both
]
;B[oq]
;W[qe]C[liyue [-\]: I was a bit surprised when i saw something like d6 at first, but now i started getting used to it in Matthew's game :-)
liyue [-\]: it is not common though
adsvc [6d?\]: speaking of d6 is d4 a good approach or c3/e3 better?
adsvc [6d?\]: the only problerm I often see with d6 is when I don't approach it immediatly and w get to play e3.
]
(;B[eq]C[BlackSlate [2d?\]: Do you remember these two playing the cross fuseki before?
liyue [-\]: Hmm i don't think so..
liyue [-\]: don't remember d6 before..
]
;W[cq]C[liyue [-\]: E3 is somehow looks like tasting a cup of hot tea...taking a little sip, afraid of to be burnt. It is attitude is wanting peace for the moment :-)
]
(;B[cl]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: c8 is a bit strange
]
(;W[cn]
(;B[cr]C[liyue [-\]: i remember this shape from last game :-)
]
(;W[br]
;B[dq]C[l9xl9 [?\]: is w d3 d2 e4 wrong?
]
(;W[bp]C[liyue [-\]: b4 looks a bit strange
]
;B[cp]
;W[bq]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
fab [-\]: why would whute want to play B4 instead of C4 ?
liyue [-\]: this exchange gave b one more stone outside
]
;B[hp]
(;W[jq]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
Goreon [1d\]: so is m3 only move here?
liyue [-\]: yes..
liyue [-\]: the invasion looks too early
]
(;B[lq]C[Paradize [1k\]: hum H3 instead K5 ?
TeeSushi [3d\]: what if h3 now?
]
(;W[jo]
;B[iq]
;W[jr]
;B[hn]
;W[jm]C[CGBSpender [-\]: so, is K3 premature ? or white could have done better at bottom ?
]
;B[kn]C[liyue [-\]: yes, it looks more urgent to take big points on the top...
]
(;W[jn]
(;B[hl]C[maproomad [-\]: around this stage in his games, it always looks as if MM is losing.  Is that because he is losing but plays better later? or does he understand things that other people don't? 
Shanti [1k\]: do you recommend k9?
liyue [-\]: and of course, i'd say MM has certain advantage in the fight in the middle game..
]
(;W[jk]LB[jp:A]C[liyue [-\]: the exchange at l4 looks like a crude move..
liyue [-\]: it killed the aji at A
]
(;B[kp]
;W[jp]
;B[hj]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: i would certainly tell them off if l4 was played by my student :-) but maybe Wang Hui has some special plan..
]
(;W[ji]C[liyue [-\]: w keeps jumping with b
AliciaS: j12 a option now?
AliciaS: enduring white h12 seems still quite painfull for blacks shape?
]
(;B[od]C[liyue [-\]: it is not common to have other option than q17 against the approach at p16
liyue [-\]: which led w a slow path in the center
liyue [-\]: and the tenuki looks a bit strange as well..
]
(;W[po]C[liyue [-\]: oh w directly tenuki'ed
liyue [-\]: that's a bit surprising
]
;B[qp]
(;W[qo]
;B[pp]C[liyue [-\]: p5 seems to be the only move..
]
(;W[no]
;B[qc]C[liyue [-\]: w's shape in the right side looks a bit akward to me now...to wide
toko [2k\]: how about Q12 or P15 ?
]
(;W[pg]C[liyue [-\]: q13 is an interesting move
]
(;B[qi]C[liyue [-\]: after r17 and the invasion at r11, w was already behind in territory
]
(;W[qk]
;B[pk]
;W[ql]
;B[oi]C[Kirigo: o13 only moove?
liyue [-\]: i'd say o13 is the only move
liyue [-\]: if w ignores, the cap at o13 would be unbearable
]
;W[ng]
(;B[rg]
(;W[qg]
(;B[qj]C[liyue [-\]: b finds r10 is more important than the extension at s14 in buiding eyes
]
;W[rh]
(;B[pl]
;W[rn]C[liyue [-\]: s6 is a tesuji, emphasising the big yose at s4 in future
liyue [-\]: with the possible eye at A and good shape in the center, b looks fine at the moment with q8 group
]
(;B[qm]
;W[rm]
;B[mm]C[liyue [-\]: n7 looks a bit too prudent to me..
]
(;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]
;W[ko]C[liyue [-\]: hmm 
liyue [-\]: can b really ignore now...
]
(;B[mh]C[liyue [-\]: seems to be pointless to keep playing on the right side now..
]
;W[mc]C[Wudi: opmg\\
Kurotsu [1d\]: what happened
Kurotsu [1d\]: ?
Wudi: ???
nhhm [2d\]: liyue escaped?
Wudi: escaper
madcow [1d\]: sssh
Ludmila [5k\]: to hard to comment
HandA [2k\]: brain exploded
BlackSlate [2d?\]: sometimes she has connectio problems
madcow [1d\]: maybe she was a chat bot that ran into segmentation fault
liyue [-\]: sorry, my computer just crashed..
liyue [-\]: back :-)
]
(;B[rf]
(;W[re]
(;B[md]
;W[ld]
;B[me]C[liyue [-\]: also, despise the weak shape of r15, it seems to be impatient to approach on the top at n17
]
;W[mg]
(;B[nc]
;W[qh]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: why not cut instead of o17..
]
;B[lh]
;W[lg]
;B[kh]C[liyue [-\]: so far i am more in favor of black, for w is lack of territory
liyue [-\]: the resuilt here also gave b more points
]
;W[op]C[liyue [-\]: In my option these three moves are questionable
liyue [-\]: which led the game to this situation
DaoLin [2d\]: 'liyue [-\]: so far i am more in favor of black, for w is lack of territory' sorry, LiYue , the reasoning is unclear to me. Do you mean 'DESPITE having not much territory, White's shapes are better' or so?
liyue [-\]: sorry, i try to make myself more clear...
liyue [-\]: at the moment i think b is leading. as b is leading in territory and also don't have any weak group
]
;B[nq]C[liyue [-\]: well..this seems to be the last move before the lunch break :-)
liyue [-\]: i think w will have to find some trouble in the left side
liyue [-\]: anyway, the board is still empty
]
;W[rr]C[liyue [-\]: Lunch break now..we'll continue in an hour :-)
liyue [-\]: thanks for watching...see you in a bit and have a nice lunch :-)
maproomad [-\]: There has been a delay - they probably won't resume play for another 35 minutes
maproomad [-\]: at 14:30 BST, = 13:30 UTC
maproomad [-\]: the game may resume with the sealed move in about five minutes
]
;B[lo]C[liyue [-\]: Hi again
maproomad [-\]: they hae resumed
liyue [-\]: hope everybody had a nice lunch :-)
maproomad [-\]: Our apologies for the delay
maproomad [-\]: possibly nice for the players, certainly rather slow
liyue [-\]: well..m5..
]
(;W[mo]
(;B[qr]
;W[sq]
;B[qq]
(;W[le]
;B[kj]C[liyue [-\]: the exchange at j9 strengthened b's left side so much..
]
(;W[ik]
;B[hk]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w is thinking about tenuki
]
(;W[lp]C[liyue [-\]: ah...a thick move
(M) I had a huge delusion here, that I could make a ko with q2]
(;B[fc]
(;W[mb]
;B[nb]
;W[ne]
;B[nd]
;W[kc]C[liyue [-\]: hmm b looks very alive here..
]
(;B[rd]
;W[mk]
;B[kf]
;W[lf]C[wornof [1d\]: What is white aiming for here if b tenukis?
liyue [-\]: i think w find himself short in territory, and therefore putting pressure on the n12 group
]
(;B[mj]C[liyue [-\]: b keeps itself safe while aimming at the cut at k10
liyue [-\]: i think it is the time to invade the left side
]
(;W[lk]
(;B[ii]
(;W[be]C[liyue [-\]: a good point
]
(;B[bd]
(;W[ce]
;B[cd]
;W[ci]C[liyue [-\]: a good point
]
;B[el]
(;W[de]C[liyue [-\]: but howevery, the last few moves of b looked a bit slack
liyue [-\]: no severe attack towards w's invasion after spending a move at j11 
liyue [-\]: and now b's moyo is gone on the left side
]
(;B[dg]
;W[cg]
;B[dh]
;W[ch]
(;B[ee]
(;W[bj]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: b10 looks a bit slack
liyue [-\]: although w had a seccussful invasion in the left side, it doesn't seem to be enough to turn the game over
]
;W[ib]
;B[hc]
;W[pc]
;B[pd]
;W[qd]
;B[rc]
;W[pb]C[liyue [-\]: q17 and so are tesujis in yose
]
(;B[se]C[liyue [-\]: oh the counterattack works?
]
;W[qf]
(;B[ob]
;W[qb]
;B[rb]
(;W[jf]
;B[jh]
;W[ek]C[liyue [-\]: i have a feeling that b is holding back too much ever since j11, the game is getting closer and closer
]
;B[dk]
(;W[ef]
;B[df]
(;W[ei]
;B[ae]
;W[cf]
;B[ff]
;W[fk]LB[gm:A]C[liyue [-\]: the peeo at A would be really annoy for b now
]
(;B[fm]
;W[af]
;B[eg]
(;W[go]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
(;B[gp]C[liyue [-\]: in my counting, now b is still leading by 15 points or so
]
;W[fn]
(;B[ho]
;W[fh]
;B[dj]
;W[di]
;B[gi]
;W[ej]
(;B[en]C[liyue [-\]: hmmm
liyue [-\]: w can simply cut
]
(;W[ad]
;B[bc]
;W[ms]
;B[ls]
;W[lr]
;B[ns]
;W[ks]
;B[mr]
(;W[dm]
;B[dl]
;W[em]
;B[fl]
;W[eo]
;B[jb]
;W[kb]
;B[om]
;W[lj]
;B[rj]
;W[qn]
;B[pm]
;W[rl]
(;B[ln]
;W[kq]
;B[hb]C[liyue [-\]: hmm i think d1 is slightly bigger
]
;W[nj]C[liyue [-\]: as afterwards c4 would be a sente for b
]
;B[nh]
;W[hr]
;B[gr]
;W[ir]
;B[je]
;W[jc]
;B[if]
;W[sd]C[liyue [-\]: b is still leading by 15 points or so
]
;B[ra]C[liyue [-\]: if nothing magic happens w has no more chance in the small yose anymore
liyue [-\]: in this game i'd say w has an unseccessful start in the opening
]
;W[ja]
;B[gh]
;W[os]
;B[ps]
;W[nr]
;B[or]
;W[ha]C[(M) the original record has this move at the wrong time. Corrected in this versioln]
;B[gb]
;W[fg]
;B[gg]
;W[sf]
;B[of]
;W[og]
;B[oj]
;W[gq]C[liyue [-\]: g3 is a tesuji..
]
;B[fq]
;W[hq]
;B[fp]C[liyue [-\]: but now
liyue [-\]: w can only get one side, g2 or c2
]
(;W[ac]
;B[ab]
;W[ae]
;B[bb]
;W[sb]
;B[pa]
;W[sc]
;B[bk]
;W[bm]
;B[cj]
;W[aj]
;B[ak]
;W[bi]
;B[nl]
;W[gn]
;B[hm]C[liyue [-\]: o8 is aimming at the peep at l8
]
(;W[km]
(;B[lm]
;W[kk]
;B[nk]C[(M) resolving li's comments, it seems this is the losing move, should be d1.]
;W[nf]
;B[na]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[dp]
;W[jd]
;B[id]
;W[ke]
;B[jg]
;W[mi]
;B[co]
;W[bo]
;B[jj]
;W[sr]
;B[ma]
;W[la]
;B[oe]
;W[gs]
;B[fr]
;W[kg]
;B[jf]
;W[bl]
;B[rs]
;W[al]
;B[ck]
;W[ga]
;B[fa]
;W[ia]
;B[on]
;W[oo]
;B[ns]
;W[li]
;B[ki]
;W[ni]
;B[sk]
;W[nn]
;B[pi]
;W[sl]
;B[ls]
;W[eh]
;B[ef]
;W[ms]
;B[ip]
;W[ls]
;B[fs]
;W[hs]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
;B[si]LB[ib:C][sd:D][cr:A][hr:B]C[liyue [-\]: i would not say the yose is successful for b..w seem got everything
liyue [-\]: b somehow didn't get any of these four biggest points
]
;W[sh]
;B[il]
;W[cm]
;B[es]
;W[ds]C[(M) the rest is dame points.]
;B[gj]
;W[jl]
;B[ll]
;W[gk]
;B[qa]
;W[se]
;B[oc]
;W[ri]
;B[sj]
;W[sp]C[liyue [-\]: the result has come out...w won by 3.5 points...that's a great pity for b :-)
liyue [-\]: gave up too many points after the upper side
liyue [-\]: thanks for both players and congratulations again to MM :-)
liyue [-\]: hope you all enjoyed the game!
liyue [-\]: see you next time :-)
])
(;B[ds]C[liyue [-\]: in local d1 is better
])
(;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[dr]
;W[gs]
;B[fr]C[liyue [-\]: e2 wants to connect both sides but with these two atari, it is not worth it
]))
(;W[dr]
;B[kl]
;W[kk]
;B[jl]))
(;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cs]C[liyue [-\]: c2 is way bigger though
]))
(;B[ds]C[liyue [-\]: probably d1 now..
]))
(;W[hb]
;B[gb]
;W[jc])
(;W[jb]
;B[hb]C[liyue [-\]: the upper side is the biggest point now..
liyue [-\]: k18 is likely to be a sente
]))
(;W[dm]
;B[dl]
;W[em]C[liyue [-\]: e6 is a bit strange
]))
(;B[ir]
(;W[fl]
;B[em]
;W[gm]
;B[gn]
;W[gl]
;B[en]C[liyue [-\]: no need to worry about the cut either..
])
(;W[bl]C[(M) this is quite big]
(;B[fl]
;W[cm]
;B[ds]C[still much better for black])
(;B[bm]C[not possible]
;W[gm]
;B[gl]
;W[fl]
;B[em]
;W[gn]
;B[en]
;W[eo]
;B[hm]
;W[fo]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[dp]
;W[dl]
;B[dm]
;W[cm]))))
(;B[dj]
;W[di]
;B[ej]
;W[fj]
;B[fi])
(;B[ej]
;W[fj]
;B[dj]
;W[di]
;B[fi]C[liyue [-\]: h5 is a bit prudent..
]
;W[ho]
;B[ir]C[liyue [-\]: b is alive in the lower side if w cuts
]))
(;B[gp]C[liyue [-\]: b should not connect now
liyue [-\]: but defend from the lower side
liyue [-\]: then the exchange at g5 is not good for w in gaining points
]))
(;W[ad]C[liyue [-\]: this is so comfortable..
]
;B[bc]
;W[fh]C[liyue [-\]: quite comfortable for w
]))
(;B[fl]
(;W[af]C[liyue [-\]: this is the reasonable way
])
(;W[gm]C[(M) maybe some trouble here])))
(;W[ei]C[liyue [-\]: e11 is a tesuji
])
(;W[fe]
;B[ed])
(;W[ej]C[liyue [-\]: but looks like w has intention to get out directly with the extension
]))
(;W[ei]))
(;W[gq]
(;B[ir]
;W[hr]
;B[is]
;W[fp]
;B[eo]
;W[ep]
;B[dp]
;W[do]
;B[fn]
;W[fr]C[liyue [-\]: g3 looks like the biggest point now, b can't counterattack
])
(;B[gp]C[(M) surely best for b to play here]
;W[hr]
;B[fq]C[w doesnt get much
])))
(;B[qb]C[liyue [-\]: looks like so, it is a gote to kill these two stones now after all
]))
(;B[qb]
;W[ra]
;B[qa]
;W[sd]
;B[sc]
;W[se]
;B[oa]C[liyue [-\]: to abtain the sente at t16
]))
(;W[df]
;B[ef])
(;W[bk]
(;B[bl]
;W[df]
;B[ef]
;W[hc]
;B[bj]
;W[bi]
;B[ck]
;W[bf]C[liyue [-\]: if w can abtain a sente
])
(;B[ic]
;W[bl]C[liyue [-\]: otherwise there will be a big yose left at b8
])))
(;B[ee]C[liyue [-\]: e15 is another choice..
]
;W[bk]
;B[bl]
;W[df]
;B[ef]
;W[hc]C[liyue [-\]: but b would probably end up in gote...
liyue [-\]: then h17 is big..
]))
(;B[dg]
;W[cg]
;B[dh]
;W[ch]C[liyue [-\]: b will probably attack it a bit now
]
;B[bj]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
;W[fe]C[liyue [-\]: d13 seems to be a more rich shape then d15
]))
(;W[dg]C[liyue [-\]: it will be reasonable to strengthen this group for w
]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: j17 looks like the biggest point now
]))
(;W[cd]
;B[ce]
;W[cc]
;B[bc]
;W[dc]
;B[ed]
;W[bf]
;B[bb]
;W[de]
;B[cf]
;W[cg]
;B[df]
;W[eg]
;B[dg]
;W[dh]
;B[ef]
;W[ff]
;B[ee]
;W[bh]C[liyue [-\]: a joseki
]
;B[ci]
;W[ch]
;B[bi]C[liyue [-\]: and a simple way for b
]))
(;B[ce]C[liyue [-\]: looks better to me, the result of b16 looks a bit flat for b
]
;W[bf]
;B[bd]
;W[ci]
;B[bj]
;W[cj]
;B[ck]
;W[bi]
;B[ak]
;W[cf]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[ef]C[liyue [-\]: it is impossible to kill this group
])
(;B[cd]
;W[bd]
;B[bc]
;W[ch]
;B[cf]
;W[bf]
;B[cg]
;W[bg]
;B[bi]
;W[bh]
;B[cj]
;W[eh]C[liyue [-\]: more compllicated, but b looks too thin to kill
]))
(;W[cj]
(;B[dk]
;W[cg]
;B[ce]
;W[dj]
;B[bk]C[liyue [-\]: the invasion at c10 has grown a bit risky maybe..
]
;W[bj]
;B[bm]
;W[bf]
;B[be]
;W[bh]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: acceptable for both
])
(;B[ch]
;W[dk]
;B[di]C[liyue [-\]: also considerable for b
]
;W[dl]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: to sacrifice c8 in exchange of the moyo
])))
(;B[jj]
;W[ij]
;B[ii]C[liyue [-\]: the cut is possible...
]
;W[jh]
;B[kg]
;W[ih]
;B[hi]
;W[if]
;B[je])
(;B[ce]C[liyue [-\]: later, i'd say it is more practical to make the moyo to territory in the left side
]))
(;W[bd]
;B[bf]
;W[cc]
;B[dc]
;W[bb]
;B[cf]
;W[db]
;B[eb]C[liyue [-\]: an option, but it feels sealed inside the corner
]))
(;B[ll]C[(M) i planned m10]
(;W[nm]
;B[ml]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]C[liyue [-\]: maybe b can cut it off
])
(;W[lj]
(;B[kk]
;W[ki]
;B[li]
;W[nj]C[(M) this move needs to be sente]
;B[ni]
;W[ml]
;B[lm]
;W[nm])
(;B[ki]
;W[nh]
;B[ni]
;W[kk]
;B[lk]
;W[mi]
(;B[nj]
;W[jh]C[(M) to make this  sequence work, white needs a stone here first.])
(;B[jh]
;W[ml]
;B[lm]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[nk]
;W[ok]
;B[nj]
;W[pj]
;B[pm]
;W[pi]
;B[oj]
;W[ph]
;B[nn]C[no good for black. It seems I was hallucinating with these sequences. actually the whole attack on the right side has been a hallucination for me. Lucky to get back to playing endgame just in time
]))))
(;B[ce]C[liyue [-\]: or...a more bold way, ignore to take the big point in the left side
]
(;W[kk])
(;W[ll]
;B[if]C[liyue [-\]: there isn't not really a effecient way to attack b seen
]))
(;B[dj]C[liyue [-\]: d10 is also an option
]))
(;B[ce]C[liyue [-\]: doesnt c15 make the left side really scarey..
]
;W[rc]
;B[rb]
(;W[qd]
;B[pb]
;W[pc]
;B[qb]
;W[pd]
;B[sb]C[liyue [-\]: b is alive
])
(;W[sb]C[liyue [-\]: hmm what about t18..
]
;B[qb]
;W[qd]
;B[pd]
;W[ra]
;B[pb]
;W[oc]
;B[nf]
;W[of]
;B[oe]
;W[mf]
;B[pf]
;W[ne]
;B[qf]C[liyue [-\]: w looks too thin to kill this group
(M) but black can fight on for a bit]
;W[sg]
;B[pe]
;W[sf]
;B[sd]
;W[se]
;B[sc]
;W[rd]
;B[sc]
;W[qa]
;B[sa]C[(M) seems to be ko, but black can play e8 as ko threat to make enough in upper right]
;W[pr]
;B[qs]
;W[sb]
;B[el]
;W[sd]
;B[hg]
;W[hh]
;B[gh]
;W[ig]
;B[lk]
;W[gg]
;B[hf]
;W[gi]
;B[fh]
;W[hi]
;B[fi]
;W[gj]
;B[fk]
;W[if]
;B[he]
;W[ie]
;B[hd]
;W[bm]
;B[bl]C[(M) close game])))
(;W[cj]
;B[dk]
;W[cg]
;B[ce]C[liyue [-\]: f17 is similar idea to f16
])
(;W[pr]C[(M) this was my 'ko']
(;B[ps]
;W[or]
;B[pq]
;W[ms]
;B[sr]
;W[ss]
;B[rs]C[if  this is b's best, then I need m4 to stop the ko exploding and killing s6 group.])
(;B[qs]C[this is correct, and w has no continuation]
(;W[sr]
;B[lr])
(;W[ms]
;B[sr]C[easy life]))))
(;B[df]C[liyue [-\]: but the left side is really big now
])
(;B[fd]C[liyue [-\]: f16 is also an option
]
;W[cj]
;B[dk]
;W[cg]
;B[ce]C[liyue [-\]: w would for sure invade
]
;W[dj]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: but simply form a nice shape on the top wouldn't be bad for b
]))
(;W[ii]C[liyue [-\]: now w still has a cutting point at k10
]))
(;W[jj]C[liyue [-\]: i wonder if it was worth it
liyue [-\]: probably better simply connect it
]))
(;W[]
;B[ln]C[liyue [-\]: b didn't make the exchanges at m4 and so is probably because he wants to cut at m6 at some point
liyue [-\]: in future
]))
(;B[lp]
;W[ln]
;B[mn]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[km]
;B[sp]C[(M) this is not possible]
(;W[so]
;B[ro]C[liyue [-\]: start the ko is a risky choice, as it concerns the lives of both
])
(;W[qq]C[not a move for black (M)]
;B[ro]
;W[pq]
;B[rp]
;W[qr]C[game over])))
(;W[lp]
;B[np]
;W[mo]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[sq]C[liyue [-\]: this is b's trick..
])
(;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[qr]
;B[np]C[liyue [-\]: but w will probably take the corner
liyue [-\]: leave k9 group to be cut off
]
;W[ih]C[liyue [-\]: it is unlikely to have any trouble for this big dragon
])
(;W[mo]
;B[lp]
;W[ln]
;B[mn]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[km]
;B[qq]
;W[sq]
;B[qr]C[liyue [-\]: n5 is similar
])
(;W[pq]C[(M) I would have played here if I didnt have a delusion about ko on the lower side]
;B[qq]
;W[pr]
;B[np]
;W[oo]
;B[mo]
;W[ih]C[(M) this may be playable for w, but there are a lot of groups without proper eyes]))
(;B[lc]C[liyue [-\]: the cut is really tempting
(M) I agree, see my possible variation at o17]
(;W[kc]
;B[lb]
;W[kd]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]
;B[mb]C[liyue [-\]: the atari is not really interesting for w
liyue [-\]: for w only make itself heavy with these exchanges
])
(;W[nc]
;B[kc]
;W[oc]
;B[pd]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]
;W[oe]
;B[pe]
;W[of]
;B[le]
;W[qb]
;B[pb]
;W[pc]
;B[qd]
;W[ob]
;B[rb]
;W[pa]
;B[qf]
;W[qh]
(;B[lh]
;W[sh]
;B[rd]
;W[rk]C[black is tricked])
(;B[rj]
;W[nh]
;B[rl]
;W[op]
;B[nq]
;W[lo]
;B[df]C[neitehr side thin enough to die]))))
(;B[md]
;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[rc]
;B[rb]
(;W[qd]
;B[pc]
;W[qh]
;B[lc]C[liyue [-\]: n16 looks severe to me..
])
(;W[pc]C[(M) white will play here]
(;B[pd]
;W[qd]
;B[qb]
;W[oc]
;B[nc]
;W[nb]
;B[nd]
;W[ob]
;B[lc]
;W[mb]
;B[sc]
;W[kd]
;B[rd]
;W[se]
;B[sd]
(;W[sg]
;B[ri]
;W[qf]
;B[mg]
;W[of]
;B[pe]
;W[oh]
;B[qh]
;W[sf]
;B[nh]
;W[mf]
;B[lf]
;W[nf]
;B[le]
;W[lg]
;B[je]
;W[ph]
;B[pf]
;W[ni]
;B[oj]
;W[mi]
;B[lh]
;W[kg]
;B[li]C[(M) w probably dead???])
(;W[nh]
;B[ni]
;W[mg]
;B[qf]
;W[qh]
;B[pf]
;W[lh]C[this looks ok for white. Black is thin in the centre and L16 is working hard]))
(;B[pb]
;W[qd]
;B[qb]
;W[oc]C[disaster for black]))))
(;W[mg]C[liyue [-\]: i would escape now if i was to play now..
(M) I agree. This is the beginning of a long period when I tried too hard to attack.]
;B[qh]
;W[fc]C[liyue [-\]: the cut at r12 is big of course, but nothing that serious, w can get the sente for the big point on the top as a compensation
]))
(;B[md]
;W[ld]
;B[me]
;W[nc]
;B[le]
(;W[kd]
;B[ke]
;W[jd]
;B[rf]C[liyue [-\]: this is just an idea..
liyue [-\]: w q13 group looks a bit thin
])
(;W[mg]
;B[kd]C[liyue [-\]: if at some moment w tries to run out, b will ignore
liyue [-\]: it seems to be inpossible to kill the center 
])))
(;B[df]
(;W[mi]
;B[nk]
;W[rk]
;B[om])
(;W[nk]
;B[mi]
(;W[lk]
;B[lh]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't seem to be possible to kill
])
(;W[lh]C[(M) if there is a move, this must be it. The following sequence is my invention]
;B[mh]
;W[mg]
;B[li]
;W[ki]
;B[mk]
;W[op]
;B[nq]
;W[nl]
;B[on]
;W[nm]
;B[nn]
;W[mn]
;B[oo]
;W[om]
;B[np]
;W[ml]
;B[pm]
;W[pn]
;B[mo]
;W[rk]
;B[si]
;W[sq]
;B[qh]
;W[rf]
;B[sg]
;W[sf]
;B[sh]
;W[sj]
;B[ri]
;W[ph]
;B[nj]
;W[pi]
;B[pj]
;W[lk]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[og]
;W[of]
;B[pf]
;W[qf]
;B[pe]C[(M)black is hard to mill]))))
(;W[cj]C[liyue [-\]: invade? a good point
])
(;W[fc]
(;B[df]
;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: or f17, also a big point
liyue [-\]: then turn to attack the right side
])
(;B[hc]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]
;W[dc]
;B[ed]
;W[fb]
;B[ge]C[liyue [-\]: if b pincers, after the joseki, b's left side would look a bit empty
]
;W[gk]
;B[hk]
;W[gm]
;B[hm]
;W[dk]C[liyue [-\]: not difficult to invade
])))
(;B[df]LB[jc:B][ih:A]C[liyue [-\]: d14 is a big point
liyue [-\]: defending the corner while connecting c8
liyue [-\]: and afterwards there are two good points at A and B
]))
(;B[nk]LB[rf:A][ri:B]C[liyue [-\]: b will probably keep buiding eyes in the center
liyue [-\]: leaving the option of making an eye at B and a big yose in future at A
]))
(;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[qj]C[liyue [-\]: a reasonable continuation
]))
(;W[qj]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: r10 looks like a nice move
]
;B[ri]
(;W[oe]
;B[nd]
;W[qf]
;B[pj]
;W[ph]
;B[pi]
;W[nj]C[liyue [-\]: but
]
;B[ni]
;W[lh]
;B[nl]C[liyue [-\]: this is looks difficult for both, but b already has an eye on the right side...
liyue [-\]: not likely that group will have any trouble living
])
(;W[qh]
;B[pi]
;W[qg]
;B[rh]
;W[rf]C[(M) now b has only half an eye on the side
])))
(;B[rg]C[liyue [-\]: s13 looks comfortable, threatening on connecting
]
;W[qf]
;B[qj]C[liyue [-\]: b can build eyes
]))
(;W[qk]
;B[pk]
;W[ql]
;B[oi]
;W[ng]
;B[nk]C[liyue [-\]: it would be impossible to kill b in the center
liyue [-\]: general speaking..
]))
(;B[qi]
;W[qk]
;B[oi]
;W[ng]C[liyue [-\]: his lauguage is: i am not afraid of the invasion :-)
liyue [-\]: w would first make base for the r5 group then fight on the top
]))
(;W[pj]LB[qg:B][qh:A]C[liyue [-\]: q10 is a good shape towards the lower side
liyue [-\]: but there will be invasion points on the upper side
])
(;W[oe]
;B[ne]
;W[of]
;B[md]
;W[pj]C[liyue [-\]: p15 is a nice thought...it defends at certain degree, the invasion on the right side
liyue [-\]: but meanwhile gave b a good shape on the to[
liyue [-\]: top*
]))
(;W[pk]C[liyue [-\]: usually it is unbearable to allow your oppoenent to hane the 2 stones's head
]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[nn]
;W[no]
;B[op]
;W[om]C[liyue [-\]: well..but now since b has no development on the lower side at all, it seems to be considerable too for w
]))
(;W[qo]
;B[pp]
;W[oo]
;B[qc]C[liyue [-\]: if b intentionally gain a sente then enter the corner
]
;W[qh]C[liyue [-\]: the moyo in the right side doesn't look that interesting
liyue [-\]: comparing to the loss of the upper right corner
]))
(;W[pc]
;B[oc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[pf]
;B[jd]
;W[qp]C[liyue [-\]: i am more in favor of take the corner first
liyue [-\]: then go into b's corner directly at r4
]))
(;B[ih]
;W[jh]
;B[ig]
;W[kf]
;B[ie]
;W[pl]C[liyue [-\]: yes, it is an option..
liyue [-\]: but a bit scary going like this..both has a big moyo which look square
])
(;B[od]C[liyue [-\]: i am more in favor of approaching the corner
]
;W[pc]
;B[oc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[pf]
;B[jd]
(;W[qp]C[liyue [-\]: after the joseki b formed influence on the up
liyue [-\]: while reducing w
])
(;W[hh]
;B[ci]LB[ih:A]C[liyue [-\]: actually it doesn't matter much, as b already has base
liyue [-\]: with h10
liyue [-\]: while on the other hand, b can aim at such cutting point as A
])))
(;W[fc]
;B[ji]
;W[ll]
;B[lj]C[liyue [-\]: he still find it uncomfortable to by capped in the center
]))
(;B[jp]
;W[kp]
;B[ip]
;W[kq]
;B[ko]C[liyue [-\]: in future...there is a possibility to cut
]))
(;W[fc]
;B[jk]C[liyue [-\]: if w tenuki now, b would immediately take control of the centre..
]
;W[km]
;B[lk]
;W[mm]
;B[nk]C[liyue [-\]: looks painful for w
])
(;W[jk]C[liyue [-\]: yes, i recommond k9, it is a big point..
liyue [-\]: well...i wouldn't say MM is losing now :-)
]
;B[od]C[liyue [-\]: i find b has faster speed now, but i'd say the game is even
]))
(;B[hl]C[liyue [-\]: it looks reasonable to jump out now..
]
;W[jk]
;B[hj]
;W[ji]C[liyue [-\]: w would keep jumping too
]))
(;W[jn]
(;B[hl]C[liyue [-\]: after this exchange b will have to keep jumping..
]
;W[jk])
(;B[kc]
;W[hl]C[liyue [-\]: if b tenuki now the cap in the center is more poweful than before, without the exchange at l6
])))
(;W[hq]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[ho]C[liyue [-\]: h3 is nothing interesting..
]
;W[gr]
;B[fq]
;W[ir]
;B[fo]C[liyue [-\]: the exchange is favorable for b, as b is so much stronger towards the center now
]))
(;B[lq]
;W[jo]
;B[iq]C[liyue [-\]: but please remember that m3 then j3 are the good order..
]
;W[jr]C[liyue [-\]: now w will for sure go down..
]
;B[hn]
;W[jm]
;B[od]C[liyue [-\]: the invasion doesn't look urgent
liyue [-\]: comparing to the big points on the top
])
(;B[io]
;W[mq]C[liyue [-\]: any other move would allow w to have base with k3 
])
(;B[iq]
;W[jp]
;B[lq]
;W[in]C[liyue [-\]: but if b make the exchange at j3 first, w goes faster to the center now :-)
]))
(;W[fc]C[liyue [-\]: isn't the invasion a bit too early..
liyue [-\]: maybe take big points first
]))
(;W[cp]C[liyue [-\]: i would say c4 is slightly better
]))
(;W[br]C[liyue [-\]: w has to respond
]
;B[dq]
;W[cp]
;B[hq]C[liyue [-\]: b's intension is probably this
])
(;W[dq]
;B[dr]
;W[ep]
;B[fq]C[liyue [-\]: this is a typical thank you move..
liyue [-\]: b is given a lot of territory
]))
(;B[ci]
;W[gq]C[liyue [-\]: if b defends the other side..the lower side will be attacked
]))
(;W[cn]
;B[hq]
;W[ci]C[liyue [-\]: if w simply defend at c6
liyue [-\]: b still has to extend in the lower side
liyue [-\]: then the exchange at c8 is not really good for b, as it strengthened w's corner and still a floating stone
]))
(;B[hq]
;W[ck]C[liyue [-\]: a normal continuation
]))
(;B[dp]C[liyue [-\]: The invasion looks tempting
]
;W[fp]
;B[cq]
;W[fn]
;B[od]C[liyue [-\]: d4 has faster speed, for b is more likely to end in sente
])
(;B[ep]
;W[cp]
;B[cq]
;W[bq]
;B[dq]
;W[bo]
;B[iq]C[liyue [-\]: depends...all are possible
liyue [-\]: this is a joseki, which focuses more on the right side
])
(;B[cq]
;W[eq]C[liyue [-\]: c3 would have the worry of being sealed in
liyue [-\]: but more focused on the corner
])
(;B[]
;W[eq]LB[bn:C][cp:B][cq:A]C[liyue [-\]: personally i don't find it very scary
liyue [-\]: the corner looks big but there are a lot of ajis
]))
