(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[180]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[BGA Championship Game One]PW[Vanessa Wong]PB[Matthew Macfadyen]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2010-09-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]
;B[df]
;W[ce]
;B[de]
;W[dd]
;B[cf]
;W[be]
(;B[ge]C[NorthWind [5k\]: omg, a game has started
liyue [7d?\]: Good morning everybody :-)
NorthWind [5k\]: hi
Villarce [1d\]: Good morning
liyue [7d?\]: Pleasure to comment the BGA match as usual :-)
liyue [7d?\]: Black brought as an uncommon opening...
liyue [7d?\]: G15 is clearly more focused on the inflence in the center
]
(;W[po]C[liyue [7d?\]: she agrees with me :-)
liyue [7d?\]: here though it seems that b has many choices, it is almost the only move to pincher in the right side
]
(;B[pk]C[liyue [7d?\]: the pincher - attacking w while making a beautiful moyo in the right side
]
;W[np]
;B[oo]
;W[op]
;B[pp]
;W[pn]C[liyue [7d?\]: it gives me the impression that b is slightly overplaying
liyue [7d?\]: but now b's pincher is one space further
]
;B[on]C[liyue [7d?\]: p7 looks like the only move now...
]
(;W[pm]C[liyue [7d?\]: now b can't seal it in directly
]
(;B[mo]
(;W[om]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm
]
;B[mp]
(;W[mq]C[liyue [7d?\]: interesting
]
(;B[no]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[nr]C[Javaness [2d\]: can L3 kill for black?
liyue [7d?\]: interesting idea
]
(;B[ro]
;W[kq]
(;B[ml]C[liyue [7d?\]: n8 is a nice shape, it goes faster
]
;W[ok]
;B[pj]
;W[rn]
;B[rp]
(;W[mk]C[liyue [7d?\]: w now wants to get out as fast as possible
liyue [7d?\]: n9 is a nice shape
]
(;B[ll]
;W[oj]C[FFXIV [4d?\]: but with N9, doesn't that let b O8 to break w shape?
liyue [7d?\]: good question
]
;B[pi]
;W[nm]
(;B[ln]
;W[pg]C[liyue [7d?\]: aggressive!
liyue [7d?\]: but isn't a bit impatient while w already has a weak group in the center
]
(;B[og]C[liyue [7d?\]: p13 is a bit strange
liyue [7d?\]: now when w strengthens the q13 stones, b has a cutting point itself
]
;W[pe]
;B[pd]
;W[od]
;B[oh]TR[og][oh]C[liyue [7d?\]: now b got out with two moves instead
]
(;W[mi]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm nice move, because b doesn't have a good point in the right side anyway
]
;B[md]C[liyue [7d?\]: aggressive move 
]
(;W[of]
(;B[oc]
;W[me]
(;B[mh]
;W[le]
;B[li]TR[pg]C[liyue [7d?\]: after all, it gives me the impression that w is struggling in the center
]
;W[lj]
;B[ni]
;W[mj]TR[pg]C[liyue [7d?\]: there are two weak groups in the upper right side
liyue [7d?\]: the invasion at q13 was questionable
jjermann [4d?\]: is B S13 and then fight with w possible?
]
(;B[nd]C[liyue [7d?\]: key point, otherwise w will make eyes at o16
]
(;W[lh]TR[nd][ki]C[liyue [7d?\]: but i would say these two moves of b gave the center away
]
(;B[ki]
;W[mg]
;B[nh]
;W[kj]C[liyue [7d?\]: with l11 and so, b really put the q11 group in trouble
]
;B[nf]
;W[ne]
;B[oe]
;W[ji]
(;B[kh]
;W[lg]
;B[jh]
;W[od]C[liyue [7d?\]: lets see, was the ko really necessary for b?
liyue [7d?\]: it seems now b got q11 group into trouble
]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[oe]
;W[pf]
;B[rh]
;W[rg]
;B[rf]
(;W[qh]
;B[ri]
;W[qi]
;B[rj]
;W[re]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm
]
(;B[sg]
;W[qf]
;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: another ko :-)
]
;W[ih]
;B[jj]
;W[ii]C[liyue [7d?\]: b didn't want to atari from the other side at j11 is because he still wants to keep pressure on w q7 group
]
;B[jg]
;W[if]
;B[ng]
;W[rg]
;B[mf]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]
;W[od]C[liyue [7d?\]: b doesn't seem to have another option then k14
]
(;B[jf]
;W[oe]C[liyue [7d?\]: s8 is questionable...
liyue [7d?\]: after the exchange w had no more worry about its group
]
(;B[rl]
;W[jk]
;B[qg]
;W[ld]TR[ll][ln]C[liyue [7d?\]: the exchange of s8 and k9 is difficult to say, though b settles in the right side, it lost the posibility of extending at k9
liyue [7d?\]: now the ko is not so important for w anymore, just have to live in the upper side
liyue [7d?\]: then this group is really weak now 
]
;B[mb]
;W[rg]LB[ie:A][jn:B]
;B[kc]
;W[pc]
;B[ob]
;W[sf]
;B[rm]
;W[ie]C[Javaness [2d\]: feels like White is so powerful now
liyue [7d?\]: that's true...
]
;B[ig]
;W[hg]
;B[kd]
;W[gf]C[liyue [7d?\]: in this fight it feels like b didn't get anything but w became strong in the center
liyue [7d?\]: and b even lost its big corner in the upper right
]
;B[fe]
;W[jn]C[Javaness [2d\]: how should white answer H12?
liyue [7d?\]: good thought
]
(;B[jo]
;W[ko]
;B[jm]
;W[in]C[liyue [7d?\]: the game went quite dramatic...
liyue [7d?\]: at the beginning because of q13, it was quite hard for w in the center
]
;B[jl]
;W[ik]C[liyue [7d?\]: in the game now i don't see a chance for b :-(
liyue [7d?\]: ok...lunch break now...lets see if b has some magic plan during the break :-)
liyue [7d?\]: see you all in an hour :-)
]
;B[kp]
;W[jp]C[liyue [7d?\]: hi again :-)
liyue [7d?\]: did you have a nice lunch?
]
(;B[lp]
(;W[ip]
;B[jq]
;W[kr]
;B[hh]
;W[hi]
;B[gh]
;W[gi]
;B[gg]
;W[cn]
;B[fb]
;W[fc]
;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[hl]
;W[il]
;B[hp]
;W[iq]
;B[hn]
;W[im]
;B[hq]
;W[eq]
;B[ir]
;W[jr]
;B[ho]
;W[io]
;B[fq]
;W[fp]
;B[gr]
;W[er]C[liyue [7d?\]: b is trying hard to make some trouble
]
;B[dm]
(;W[dn]C[liyue [7d?\]: however it is difficult for w to lose now..
]
;B[fo]
;W[fn]
;B[gp]
;W[eo]
;B[ep]
;W[gc]
;B[gb]
;W[fp]
;B[ec]
;W[go]
;B[fr]
;W[is]
;B[hs]
;W[hr]
;B[gm]
;W[el]
;B[ir]
;W[ed]
;B[js]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm
]
;W[hf]
;B[ff]
;W[eh]
(;B[fi]
;W[fh]
;B[fg]
(;W[fd]
;B[ic]
;W[hd]
;B[id]
;W[he]
;B[bf]
;W[bc]
;B[ei]
;W[dh]
;B[cj]
;W[di]
;B[dj]
;W[ej]
;B[fj]
;W[ek]
;B[gk]
;W[fl]
;B[ci]
;W[gj]
;B[bl]
;W[ch]
;B[bh]
;W[ck]
;B[dk]
;W[cl]
;B[bk]
;W[bi]C[liyue [7d?\]: well...in this game there were some interesting fights in the opening
liyue [7d?\]: w first had two weak groups in b's influence, it was quite difficult
liyue [7d?\]: however, with b's overplay in the center it easily lost the center and the game
liyue [7d?\]: a great pity for b and congrats Vanessa for the victory :-)
liyue [7d?\]: (b just resinged)
liyue [7d?\]: hope you all enjoyed the interesting game and the comment :-0
liyue [7d?\]: see you on 10th October for the next game :-)
liyue [7d?\]: bye bye!
Opul3nce [5k\]: so se
Opul3nce [5k\]: so shes the chaamp
Opul3nce [5k\]: nice
Javaness [2d\]: no it's first to win 3 games
Opul3nce [5k\]: when are other games
Javaness [2d\]: http://www.britgo.org/bchamp/
])
(;W[ic]
;B[fd]
;W[ib]
;B[id]
;W[ha]))
(;B[id]
;W[fg]
;B[ic]C[liyue [7d?\]: the best way for b now
]))
(;W[fn]C[liyue [7d?\]: looks troublesome for b
]))
(;W[ip]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]C[liyue [7d?\]: nothing b can do :-(
]))
(;B[hl]C[liyue [7d?\]: yes it looks like so
]
(;W[kn]C[jjermann [4d?\]: I think b can run out if he played H8 instead of M4
]
;B[hm]
;W[gj]C[liyue [7d?\]: but still painful for b
])
(;W[il]
;B[im]
;W[hm]
;B[hn]
;W[gm]
;B[io]
;W[kn]
;B[lp]
;W[ip]
;B[ho]
;W[kl]
;B[lq]C[liyue [7d?\]: w can't kill this group immediately
])))
(;B[hh]
;W[ij]
;B[gh]
;W[ko]C[liyue [7d?\]: it is a good point..but there is no time now..
]))
(;B[jk]
;W[rl]
;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: still difficult but more complicated
]))
(;B[jf]
;W[oe]
;B[qg]
;W[ie]
;B[kd]
;W[rg]C[liyue [7d?\]: if w just connects the ko...then it will continue with the ko in the right side
liyue [7d?\]: however, w has many ko threats in the center
])
(;B[ld]))
(;B[sg]
(;W[qe]
;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: like this?
])
(;W[qg]
;B[rl]
;W[qe]
;B[rm]C[liyue [7d?\]: if w connect b can connect from the other side...
])))
(;W[qh]
;B[ri]
(;W[qi]
;B[rj])
(;W[sg]C[liyue [7d?\]: still ko 
])))
(;B[pf]
;W[kh]
;B[jp]TR[df][ln]C[liyue [7d?\]: maybe b can consider taking...however w will be really strong in the center and it will be a difficult game for b
liyue [7d?\]: two weak groups, b has only one group with territory in the upper side
]))
(;B[lg]
;W[ki]
;B[mg]
;W[ne]
;B[kf]C[liyue [7d?\]: looks dangerous for w
]))
(;W[lh]C[liyue [7d?\]: but i am a bit concerned about w's tenuki and atari in the center
]
;B[lg]
;W[ki]
;B[mg]
;W[ne]
;B[kf]C[liyue [7d?\]: can b kill this group?
]))
(;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: locally r13 is better
liyue [7d?\]: but now it is more improtant to get the control in the center
])
(;B[lh]
;W[jj]
;B[nd]C[liyue [7d?\]: or connect first..it is a sente anyway
]))
(;B[nd]))
(;B[oc]C[liyue [7d?\]: what happens if b connect
]
;W[mf]
;B[qg]
;W[qf]
;B[rg]
(;W[rf]
;B[rl]
;W[rm]
;B[mh]
;W[lh]
;B[mg]
;W[lg]
;B[li]C[liyue [7d?\]: w is too thin t okill b
])
(;W[ng]
;B[rf]C[liyue [7d?\]: if w only connects, it doesn't look bad for b at all to have the upper right side become its territory
])))
(;W[of]
;B[mg]
;W[oc]
;B[pb]
;W[ob]
;B[pc]
;W[lc]C[liyue [7d?\]: w p14 looks like a good shape
liyue [7d?\]: b has to jump out at n13
liyue [7d?\]: then through threatening the corner w can gain a good shape
])
(;W[ne]
;B[mg]
;W[oc]C[liyue [7d?\]: or o15...
]))
(;W[of]C[liyue [7d?\]: w should defend
]))
(;B[oi]C[liyue [7d?\]: the only move for b, to separate these two groups
liyue [7d?\]: in my opinion it is simplier just get out with p11
]
;W[mj]
;B[pe]
;W[ng]
;B[mi]C[liyue [7d?\]: w has to struggle with two groups
]))
(;B[ln]
;W[kj]C[liyue [7d?\]: l10 is a good point to get in to the center
]))
(;B[nl]C[liyue [7d?\]: this looks a bit scary
]
;W[ol]
;B[nk]
;W[oj]
;B[nj]
;W[pi]C[liyue [7d?\]: but if b really cut off n9, the right side will be harmed
]))
(;W[nj]LB[mk:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: o10 will probably be easier to think about
liyue [7d?\]: but later A is a bit painful for w
]))
(;B[nm]C[liyue [7d?\]: the next issue is..
]
;W[nl]C[liyue [7d?\]: can w hane...?
]
(;B[ol]
;W[mm]
;B[nn]
;W[nk]
;B[kp])
(;B[mm]
;W[ok]
;B[pi]C[liyue [7d?\]: though if i were b, i would prefer the hane even if w can get out
liyue [7d?\]: now b has one eye in the center
])))
(;B[qo]C[liyue [7d?\]: b has to defend, now both are alive :-)
])
(;B[oq]
;W[nq]
;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[jr]
;W[lr]C[liyue [7d?\]: w can live..
liyue [7d?\]: besides b is still not alive in the corner
]))
(;B[lq]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm why not hane..
]
(;W[or]
;B[mr]C[liyue [7d?\]: now w can't jump anymore
])
(;W[nr]C[liyue [7d?\]: what about here..
]
;B[or]
;W[lr]
;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[jq]
;W[jr]
;B[iq]C[liyue [7d?\]: no...too much crawl in the 2nd line
])
(;W[no]
;B[nn]
;W[mn]
;B[nm]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]
;W[nl]
;B[mm]C[liyue [7d?\]: the ladder is clearly not working for w
])))
(;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[mq]
;B[lq]
;W[mr]
;B[kp]))
(;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[mp]C[liyue [7d?\]: w needs to respond in the lower side
]
;B[om]
;W[qp]C[liyue [7d?\]: if b seals it in
liyue [7d?\]: the corner will die now..
]
;B[qq]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[pl]
;B[ol]
;W[qk]
;B[qj]
;W[rk]C[liyue [7d?\]: thats too big for w
]))
(;B[om]
;W[ol]
;B[pl]
;W[nl]
;B[qo]
;W[qm]C[liyue [7d?\]: b dies
])
(;B[mo]C[liyue [7d?\]: this looks like the only move
]))
(;W[om]
;B[mo]
;W[pl]
;B[mp]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[mq]
;B[lq]
;W[mr]
;B[kp]
;W[lr]
;B[kr]
;W[qp]
;B[qq]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]C[liyue [7d?\]: w doesnt seem to have enough liberties like this
]
(;W[oq])
(;W[rn]
;B[oq]))
(;W[pl]C[liyue [7d?\]: what if w just make life..
]
;B[ol]
;W[om]
;B[nm]
;W[pm]
;B[nn]
;W[qk]
;B[pj]
;W[qj]
;B[pi]
;W[nl]
;B[ok]
;W[ml]
;B[ln]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[lp]
;B[qo]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]
;W[qi]
;B[ph]
;W[rg]C[liyue [7d?\]: looks ok for both
]))
(;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[qp]
;W[pm]
;B[nq]
;W[qi]TR[de][ge][cf][df]C[liyue [7d?\]: for example, if b choose another common joseki like this, with the influence of w q7 group b's influence in the center will be destoryed
])
(;B[pl]
;W[np]
;B[oo]C[liyue [7d?\]: this is a very complicated joseki...
]))
(;W[po]C[liyue [7d?\]: Now for w the normal continuation will be taking big points
]))
(;B[dk]C[liyue [7d?\]: this is more normal
]))
