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CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
GN[R1 British Championship Title Match]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/1332425]
PB[Ho-Yeung Woo]
PW[Yaoling Yang]
BR[6d]
WR[7d]
OT[Error: time control missing]
RE[W+0.5]
SZ[19]
KM[7.5]
RU[AGA]
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iguana: Game 1 of the British Championship title match will begin at 11:00 on Sat 14 September 2024. Colours will be decided by nigiri shortly before the game.
iguana: The format is best of 3.
iguana: We will begin in 5 minutes.
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katapliksi: time settings?
iguana: 100 mins + 45 seconds Fischer time
Peikai Xue: Typical Yaoling's opening😆
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katapliksi: ty
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AgingGuru: Good to see a decent turnout here and on KGS :-)
iguana: 😁
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Animiral: b is looking good so far
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Animiral: I think he can ignore this and it will still be good
iguana: Time on clocks: 1:30 black, 1:34 White
AgingGuru: As a kyu player I would fine that move very hard to ignore
AgingGuru: though waht I would do about it ...
AgingGuru: *what
mattkirk78: Who has the advantage here?  black (Woo)?
AgingGuru: I understand the plan is a sealed move lunch break at 12:30-13:30 ...
Animiral: another reason to ignore now is that before, b could push L14 in sente and grow. Now that white got this point, just extending does not have the same nice shape for b
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Animiral: yep and he ignored
iguana: The sealed move will begin sometime between 12:30–13:30, but we'll give the players some flexibility
Animiral: mattkirk78, b feels better because he got the corners and w took the sides
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Peikai Xue: Still a long game, both corners are not big and there's disgusting ko aji in top left corner. 
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mattkirk78: Thanks for the advice timhunt and Animiral. :) 
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Animiral: w is already going for it, this can't be good ^^
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Animiral: sorry for my one-sided opinion but I'm just very sceptical of these timings
AgingGuru: All opinions are valid ...
AgingGuru: They may just not all be correct :-)
Animiral: b isn't even out of local ko threats.
mattkirk78: Animiral....Thanks. I'm very new to go, coming from the chess world. As I live in China now, thought I'd finally explore Go!
Animiral: d11?
Animiral: welcome to the game then :) you will find that Go thinking will help your Chess too
mattkirk78: Great! 
AgingGuru: ... but you need to lose some chess concepts, for example sacrificing stones is more common in Go that sacrificing pieces in chess.
Animiral: depends on your style lol
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AgingGuru: True :-) I was recently teaching a 75 year odl beginner who had played chess all his life, and he struggled with giving up stones to make influence
mattkirk78: Yes....I have a lot to learn. Just grasped the basic rules so far. 
Animiral: check out tsumego, the equivalent of mating problems here :) OGS has a whole puzzle section
mattkirk78: OK.
Animiral: the top left here is a nice tsumego, you can ask yourself if black is about to be captured or not
Animiral: might be a bit hard for a new beginner ;-)
timhunt: Top left is a very hard life-and-death!
timhunt: Should B connect at B17?
mattkirk78: I think black...B17........in my very amateuer opinion :) 
timhunt: That changes the nature of the ko, but in a good way or bad way?
Tschej: I mean, I would have no idea if the group was worth saving or not. For white it has a value of 17 points I think?
pipi123456: thats what i show for FIGHT:)
pipi123456: much better than just give up
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mattkirk78: csessh....some players, but the sacrifices are often unclear/difficult to calculate. If not, them it is basically an exchange. 
AgingGuru: As a kyu player I know I'm missing somethign about the importance of the moves around F8
mattkirk78: Already learning a lot following the Brit Champ tooday and the discussion forum.
pickupsomemilk: c13 still a B threat maybe?
pickupsomemilk: not sure what else to do
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AgingGuru: B has given up the top left group, what does he get in exchange?
MeenOh: hi. i am a new for looking pro game
Tschej: Its not yet away
Animiral: sooo... about that b17. black should not connect there after all, even if it can live :) 
pipi123456: he can play 3 move outsidw, at least worth 50 points
timhunt: C13 not much of a threat right now, because A16 is an atari. It was a better threat at other points in the ko.
mattkirk78: Best beginner book on Go? To introduce solid basis for moving forward.
pipi123456: left up group worth about 40
pipi123456: left white change to good after eat black, so i think eat is more than 40
pipi123456: AI say white win 6 if he eat
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timhunt: Thanks for those sequences Anmiral.
timhunt: Only thing aobut B being alive, is that then the W group on hte L side is cut off, which lets B pressure it.
mattkirk78: Animiral....yes, you are probably right.
Peikai Xue: Too good result for white. It's very difficult for black to get enough territory by attacking bottom right corner.
iguana: Time reading: 1:14 Black and 1:31 White
Animiral: timhunt, I think the group could handle itself :-) now it's completely safe anyway
Animiral: pipi, the value is more than 30 in raw points, plus maybe a little for the thickness. But it took a ko to get there, so the value of every move in the ko is ~10+ points, not a lot
Animiral: I would still choose black, but maybe the 5dans are right about f8 :)
Animiral: ok :D
Tschej: Conclusion: Ko's are always evil
Peikai Xue: Normally strong players are better at dealing with weak group like bottom right white. Especially after getting solid profit at another place.
Peikai Xue: If I play white now, in may lose the whole bottom left corner, but I believe Yaoling won't
Animiral: was there better threats for b? or was the ko on time after all?
Peikai Xue: Time was fine, but black should fight for the first ko instead of the second.
pipi123456: yes.at least should use C13and D11
timhunt: I was thinking about the 'best book for beginners' question, which is a bit hard because it is a long time since I was a beginner. Also, I can't think of just one, but there are three, which together would give you solid coverage of a lot of important knowledge: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tesuji-James-Davies/dp/4906574122, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Basics-Life-Death-Road-Shodan/dp/490657484X, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Opening-Theory-Strategic-Principles-Improve/dp/490657436X
timhunt: That needs the be combined with playing a lot.
timhunt: And, these days, books are not the only option. There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube
timhunt: E.g. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW5_cMTm0wvamCNX7qNoUqbXxeHt9n67i
iguana: Move has been sealed after B thinking 15 mins
iguana: Time reading: 1:05 Black, 1:31 White
Tschej: What does that mean? They do a break?
iguana: We will resume in around 1h (13:45pm UK time)
iguana: Yes, B's next move has been written down and sealed in an envelope, hence "sealed move". Electronic devices have been removed from players until the end of the game.
Trevoke: I'm not going to say that I regret their getting lunch but I just woke up and this is an exciting board position
Animiral: blood already on the scene ^^
Trevoke: Haha, indeed :D This must be where Michael Jackson got the inspiration for "Blood on the Dance Floor"
TrueDamage: Is there has live on twitch or Youtube?
Trevoke: I don't think so, @TrueDamage, but I'm only saying this because I didn't find anything
Peikai Xue: I think it's on ogs and kgs only.
GoDave89: so much to kibitz today ^^
Trevoke: And it's good kibitz, too, with the exception of my bad joke :)
GoDave89: :D
GoDave89: oooh, it is lunch break lol
GoDave89: makes sense ^^
TrueDamage: cheer for Woo
GoDave89: wooo whoooooo (?) :P
TrueDamage: black
Trevoke: lunch break almost over, woot
iguana: Yes, we are resuming in 3 minutes 😊
Trevoke: Three Jupiter minutes I guess *grin*
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pickupsomemilk: black should have ignored the first white threat
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iguana: Sealed move G5
iguana: We have resumed :D
Trevoke: Thank you :D
Trevoke: pre-lunch time-read copied from above 1:05 Black, 1:31 White
iguana: Confirmed, thanks 🙂
pickupsomemilk: E6?
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pipi123456: maybe play cornor first
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Peikai Xue: Connect simply. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 
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pipi123456: i think cantre is more big
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pipi123456: 3. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 Q8 O8 P10 N10 L12 K10 
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iguana: Clock readings: Black 0:54, White 1:13
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timhunt: This is heading towards a game in which the ability to count large areas accurately might be important. 
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timhunt: I still prefer W, but I like the way B is keeping his possibilities alive, and not letting W just consolidate a lead.
Peikai Xue: Agree. White kind of lose control of the game. Maybe it's better to invade in 33 in bottom right corner instead of approaching.
timhunt: Yes. Or Q6 high approach instead of R6?
Takumi Go 1: Really no idea for what to play as white
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Peikai Xue: Make sense. If black plays with similar style, white will get more territory on right side.
pipi123456: not wise to give up cornor for black
frankiethefrank: Is there a video link to this?
iguana: Sadly not
Takumi Go 1: I think 83 is out of white expectation 
pickupsomemilk: yeah I didn't really understand S4, and this follow-up can't be good
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pickupsomemilk: Live and reduce?. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 N7 O6 S7 R8 S8 R9 S3 P8 N9 
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iguana: Clock readings: Black 0:47 White 0:57
AgingGuru: Serious reading needed ... At times like this my brain starts shutting down!
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pipi123456: white had lost all his basement, but black still keep half
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Takumi Go 1: In this fight, black maintained and even solidified the territory on the bottom side, while completely destroyed white's fight hand side, white only managed to live a small corner
timhunt: So, my counting is: For W komi 7.5m top left 42.5, bottom right 5x, 
Takumi Go 1: It's totally a game for black now, white wanted to find strong moves against black group on the right
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timhunt: ... plus chnaces to pick up a bit more, particularly hassling the B group on the R 
timhunt: B bottom middle could be as much as 60. Top right 10-15, bottom left 5-10.
timhunt: So yes, looking better for B now, but still with fighing possibilities.
timhunt: Other potential for W is that the B stones around H15 could get cut off and attacked.
Takumi Go 1: *Why white
Takumi Go 1: At this point, there is no good place for white to come back, but with the very long time control, it would still be a very intense game  
Takumi Go 1: The problem of very long time control is that any side could lose his focus and blunder suddenly
timhunt: B has 2 weak groups: R10 and H15 ones. Can W find a way to use that somehow? Not easy.
Takumi Go 1: But if we just consider the game itself, I think it is very optimistic for black
pickupsomemilk: wouldn't count h15 as weak anymore
Takumi Go 1: To timhunt, I don't think the middle group of black is a concern now 
timhunt: I am not saying it is easy to launch a direct attack right now. But, if W can cause fighting in the middle, then it might get weaker - that is why I say it is not hard to find a plan, but there are chances
rescueprincess: is anyone commenting the game?
pickupsomemilk: I don't think black would ignore W O9, black can probably just push and go for center
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Takumi Go 1: to pickupsomemilk: Yes, that's a good point, but I won't like to get a gote, I may play on the right hand side after a feel press
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Takumi Go 1: One reason why black is struggling, the ladder is not working for black. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 O9 S11 M8 N9 N10 M9 L9 M10 M11 L10 K10 L11 L12 K11 J11 K12 K13 J12 H12 J13 
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pickupsomemilk: 10. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 O9 N9 O10 M11 
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Takumi Go 1: like this. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 O9 N9 O10 N10 O11 R12 
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Takumi Go 1: I can't see how white could capture any stones, even if white only trying to capture three of them. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 G14 H14 G13 H13 F12 G11 G15 G16 
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Takumi Go 1: As white extending at O9 is a gote (ladder not good for white), white may want to tenuki and attack the right group, but O9 is too great. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 Q10 O9 
Takumi Go 1: That's why white is struggling
Takumi Go 1: to rescueprincess: officially no commentator for this game
rescueprincess: thanks takumi
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pickupsomemilk: yeah in realy game I would probably play your way. here I have benefit of score estimator :P
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Peikai Xue: White is struggling under black's moyo
pickupsomemilk: black is lucky, both choices are good :P
Takumi Go 1: Well, but it would be confusing for the players, and we may get pessimistic as we can't get everything LOL
iguana: Clock readings: Black 0:47 White 0:36
iguana: First time White is down time, and still thinking
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Takumi Go 1: A or B, a very struggling question for me . From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 
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Takumi Go 1: Okay, black is optimistic, black wanted to keep his advantage
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timhunt: Now, can W find any way to break up what B has?
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Takumi Go 1: If black played this line, it means black counted the points and is optimistic to the game. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L9 L8 M7 L10 K9 K10 J9 
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Takumi Go 1: Currently, Woo is leading, but I want to share a fact, Woo did lose two games with a winning position in the yose/end game stage in the european championship against Andri Kravets and Thomas Debarre
Takumi Go 1: Could Woo learn his lesson and hold his advantage this time? 
Takumi Go 1: By the way, I like white 108, giving pressure to both sides of black
timhunt: Yes, 108 surprised me at first, so quite, but a good double-threat whne you see it.
AgingGuru: The assessment is that with best play B currently has more territory than W - is a very simplistic answer.
AgingGuru: The trick is in assessing what 'best play' means from this position
mattkirk78: Ok, thanks.
Takumi Go 1: The purpose of this game to play more stones on the board or getting more territory on the board
AgingGuru: B has solid territory at the bottom, W has a large corner in the top left and top side, the question is what becomes of the rest of the bopard
AgingGuru: *board
Takumi Go 1: Black bottom is a very big territory, so we think black is leading. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 
pickupsomemilk: mattkirk, if you click Estimate Score in the sidebar, you'll see what the estimated territories are
mattkirk78: Understood. 
mattkirk78: Yes, I have seen that. Thanks.
Takumi Go 1: But clearly 108 did give some challenges for black, Woo seems think for a bit already
AgingGuru: and of course the players don;t have the advantage of an estimation tool :-)
mattkirk78: :)
Peikai Xue: It's not easy to see a clear way to survive both groups.
pickupsomemilk: think white was ahead ~7 after top left, and black was ahead ~8 after bottom right
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pickupsomemilk: corner shouldn't be a problem
Peikai Xue: Maybe white plays some super powerful move.That's what he good at.
pickupsomemilk: haha true, but I don't see it
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mattkirk78: Can you stronger players explain to me why black is winning here?
mattkirk78: I'm quite new to Go....
AgingGuru: W just needs to let B make one mistake, especially with time reducing and possibly fatigue setting in
Peikai Xue: I don't see too😆Let's see how he performs
pickupsomemilk: white didn't see either
pickupsomemilk: sansan would be answered by s15
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Takumi Go 1: But luckily for black, the corner is not a big concern. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 M18 
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iguana: Clock readings: Black 0:25 White 0:34
pickupsomemilk: definitely still losable, don't think white should do anything special
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GoGold: Lots of large ending moves for both sides
AgingGuru: and W has sente ...
Takumi Go 1: Yeah, it would be very intense. 
AgingGuru: I favour W now - I think the centre area is going to be too big,
rescueprincess: which line is the real game? the green one?
AgingGuru: refresh the page - it will put you on it I think
rescueprincess: thanks, it was green but now all the other lines disappeared
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iguana: Alternatively, hit the "Sync" button that appears above the box with lines
pickupsomemilk: b9 is big
iguana: Alternative lines are shown by hovering over variations in comments.
GoGold: B2 is also big
GoGold: For white
rescueprincess: got it, thanks!
Peikai Xue: Should white play c8 first?
pickupsomemilk: yes
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pickupsomemilk: hm last few black moves have been a bit slack
pipi123456: C8 is the right of white
pipi123456: dont know if he can find a way eat E9:)
GoGold: Should black play C9 instead of N18
GoGold: *B9
pickupsomemilk: yes
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GoGold: If black plays B9, the consequences of white jumping in O18 is not that serious
rescueprincess: this feels like a bullying move
timhunt: W needs to find a way to make more territory - threatening B's weaknesses in a productive way is the way to do it.
Animiral: so far this is just a probe
GoGold: Agree
Takumi Go 1: To pickupsomemilk, Need some courage to tenuki now
Takumi Go 1: I think
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pipi123456: 15. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 C8 C2 F11 G11 F10 F9 G10 H10 H11 
GoGold: For black B9 is so valuable not only it's a big ending move it also threatens the life and death of white group in the left bottom corner
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Takumi Go 1: I think white is trying to get a better sequence to expend the centre . From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 
pipi123456: C8 is bigger unless white can eat E9
pipi123456: either way C8 or C2 is same value i think
pipi123456: white K13 is very bad move .AI judge it lost about 3 points
pipi123456: at this stage 3 points almost = endgame
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Takumi Go 1: But now, black should get it
Takumi Go 1: Faster than my typing 
GoGold: I think the value of C8 is definitely bigger than the centre for white
Takumi Go 1: It is nearly a double sente
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Takumi Go 1: Double sente is always the greatest move 
AgingGuru: clock times?
Takumi Go 1: To pickupsomemilk: Yang's counter measure is trying to "save his face" of playing the jump at G2
Takumi Go 1: So he could not play the variation that is objectively better
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GoGold: B9, C2 and H2 are both sente for white. This combination is too great for black
iguana: Clock readings: Black 0:08 White 0:26
AgingGuru: thanks
GoGold: *I mean for black
AgingGuru: In my lexicon 'very bad' is rather more than 3 points :-)
AgingGuru: I can easily lose 30 :-)
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pickupsomemilk: this exchange is painful. white loses b2
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Takumi Go 1: Yang's counter measure . From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 C4 B4 F2 
Peikai Xue: Black won't make mistake in this case
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Takumi Go 1: Yang's counter measure *. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 C4 B4 E3 
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pickupsomemilk: still close
AgingGuru: Seems to me as though B now has a better share of good yose moves than earlier 
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pipi123456: ofcause,but black might play wrong:)
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pipi123456: i think it is good time to play F10 let black choose
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Takumi Go 1: I think black could just connect? White need to live anyway. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 C4 B4 E3 G3 F3 H2 H1 K2 F10 F9 H11 D5 D4 C10 C2 E2 F2 B2 
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iguana: Clock readings at move 141: Black 0:02.02 White 0:11.46 Qatux [1k?\]: *0:11.46
iguana: Black 0:02.02 White 0:11.46
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Takumi Go 1: 45 seconds is a lot, both players could calculate 101 3d questions in 45 seconds with a very good accuracy, it's more about the psychological effect rather than the calculation needs of time
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iguana: The players were joking before the game that they would make the game last 8 hours (including lunch). Now that we are nearing 6.5 hours I guess they were not joking 😄
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AgingGuru: M17 now?
Takumi Go 1: And always a close game, a fabulous match
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Peikai Xue: AI thinks black is ahead of 1.5 points, very close game.
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Takumi Go 1: Ai think white is winning now 
Takumi Go 1: No clues what went wrong for black lol
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pickupsomemilk: hm I still see B+1.5
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Qatux: Time report Black 5.22 White 6.40
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Takumi Go 1: White bullying the black group in these few moves, showed why advancing into the centre is huge. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 C4 B4 E3 G3 F3 H2 H1 K2 F10 F9 E2 D5 D4 C2 D9 E10 B10 C9 D10 C10 E11 G10 H11 H12 J12 H14 J9 J8 O16 Q12 T17 S18 P12 M17 L18 L17 K17 J13 O17 O18 T18 Q18 R8 S8 S6 T7 S13 S12 
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Shindobald: Now both black and white have some territories
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pickupsomemilk: half point game now
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timhunt: Guessing this si a time-suji
Hrewsahgs: Also an endgame tesuji by virtue of N19 throw-in
Qatux: Time check Black 8.50 White 6.40
timhunt: Oh yes! nice :-)
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Peikai Xue: Your variation doesn't work, black's top right corner group has some issue
Hrewsahgs: That clamp's very reminiscent of the one in Ichiriki's 3rd Ing Cup game
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Trevoke: Has this game really been neck and neck the entire time? 
Trevoke: Wow
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timhunt: Not the entire time, but it is now!
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elaye: 18. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 C4 B4 E3 G3 F3 H2 H1 K2 F10 F9 E2 D5 D4 C2 D9 E10 B10 C9 D10 C10 E11 G10 H11 H12 J12 H14 J9 J8 O16 Q12 T17 S18 P12 M17 L18 L17 K17 J13 O17 O18 T18 Q18 R8 S8 S6 T7 S13 S12 J11 C11 D11 B11 A12 K9 K10 N16 N15 L16 M15 H16 J16 M19 J18 L19 K18 J1 J15 J14 P19 Q19 C8 B8 H9 H10 J10 H8 G1 G11 K12 Q13 P13 E14 E13 N19 R1 Q1 D7 B7 A11 A10 G16 G15 G17 D1 E1 K19 C3 B2 J19 
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Qatux: Time Report Black 4.47 While 6.00
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Trevoke: Has the game always been within 5 points or were there bigger mistakes?
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Trevoke: I tend to think that within 5 points is neck and neck, and you may have a different definition :)
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wade: i think t19 gave w better chance to win if the ko will go to 1 threat
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Trevoke: whoa, ok
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pickupsomemilk: did the ko make any difference?
timhunt: With AGA rules it can. Don;t know if it does in this case.
timhunt: No more ko threats for eaither player, so W can't play R13
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iguana: Players are counting
timhunt: Oh, game record here does not include pass stones in the prisoners.
Trevoke: AGA rules include pass stones to make japanese counting equal to chinese counting in all cases, IIRC
Trevoke: So if OGS uses Chinese rules "for AGA", it doesn't have to include pass stones
iguana: W+0.5
iguana: Congratulations to Yaoling Yang
AgingGuru:  Wow!
Trevoke: Thank you for scribing!
timhunt: Thank you very much for the relay.
iguana: Thank you all for watching 🙂 See you same time tomorrow – look for the link in the announcements.
timhunt: And to the stronger player for hte comments.
davidking68: Thanks
Trevoke: I'm guessing Round 2 will be ... GMT morning?
iguana: Game 2 begins 11:00 UK time (10:00 GMT)
iguana: Link will be https://online-go.com/demo/1332430 and also posted in announcements.
Takumi Go 1: Thank you all of the players and organisers, a fantastic matcg
Trevoke: Thank you @iguana :)
iguana: You're welcome. Qatux also recording and keeping an eye on the clock in the background :)
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Takumi Go 1: Turn out black missing this move caused the final defeat. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 C4 B4 E3 G3 F3 H2 H1 K2 F10 F9 E2 D5 D4 C2 D9 E10 B10 C9 D10 C10 E11 G10 H11 H12 J12 H14 J9 J8 O16 Q12 T17 S18 P12 M17 L18 K17 
Takumi Go 1: What a game, that's crazy
pickupsomemilk: oh wow
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pipi123456: white need play F10 before alive
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Takumi Go 1: Woo's idea. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 D4 G3 
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Takumi Go 1: Yeah, but not yang overlooked the cut 
Takumi Go 1: It's not what he expected and that's when people make mistakes
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pickupsomemilk: this would have been fine. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 N17 Q11 Q10 P10 S9 M18 N18 P16 Q17 H13 G13 K13 B9 G2 E4 D4 G3 F3 F2 E3 H2 B2 
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Takumi Go 1: But c8 is extremely big, would white miss it ?
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pickupsomemilk: white already missed it. isn't b9 sente for black?
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pipi123456: white is not ahead after he missing chance to strengthen centre before cornor
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Takumi Go 1: Another mistake may be this one, although ai did not criticize the actual game move (point A), it did give white opportunity to surround a big tummy. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 P11 
Takumi Go 1: Another mistake may be this one, although ai did not criticize the actual game move (point A), it did give white opportunity to surround a big tummy. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 S16 S15 T15 S17 R16 R17 Q15 P11 
Takumi Go 1: To Peikai Xue, Not at that moment
Takumi Go 1: but it seems to be the losing cause
Peikai Xue: At other time black may think he's ahead and doesn't want to play risky move😂
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pipi123456: 13. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 G10 H10 F10 H11 F9 H8 
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timhunt: Anything like this?. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 R17 S16 P18 O18 Q18 N17 S17 S15 S18 
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pipi123456: i think white should first play centre
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Takumi Go 1: 3-3 should be too much. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 R17 S15 P18 O18 Q18 O15 S18 P13 
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pipi123456: 14. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 R17 S15 G10 F10 G11 F11 H9 F12 G8 F9 K9 
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Takumi Go 1: To pipi, black could counter attack . From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S11 R17 S15 G10 F10 G11 F11 H9 H10 H11 J10 J11 K11 K10 J9 K12 L11 J12 L12 
pipi123456: so it looks no good way:)
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pipi123456: 11. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S13 C8 C2 F10 F9 H11 
pipi123456: it seems there is some problem for connnection
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Takumi Go 1: To pipi123456: the peep is not a sente
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Takumi Go 1: 12. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 S13 R9 S9 F10 G10 F9 F11 E10 E11 D10 H8 
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pickupsomemilk: but that's with perfect play. black could still mess up :)
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pickupsomemilk: Answering here probably would have stopped white centre too. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 R12 M9 L8 L9 K8 S14 Q10 
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Takumi Go 1: If black played the bend, it means black wanted for a fight to determine the result. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 M9 S11 
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pickupsomemilk: I'd be happy with bend and no fight. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 N9 M8 O9 M9 S11 N10 O10 O11 
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timhunt: Another thing for W to aim at, F8 group could get in trouble. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 Q5 S3 S7 T5 T6 S5 R2 Q9 R10 R3 Q3 S2 Q2 S1 N8 N7 O6 G11 H11 H10 F11 G10 F10 F12 J11 J10 K11 H7 
timhunt: Not syaing that is a real variation.
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pipi123456: i fell white might play M3 first brfore cornor
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pipi123456: 4. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 R6 Q6 R5 R4 Q7 P6 P7 O7 O8 R7 S4 R8 Q9 S3 R9 S9 S10 S7 
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pipi123456: F10 is very important, AI agree play long time ago
pipi123456: 16. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 F10 
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pipi123456: white win 6.7 if balck connection
pipi123456: 17. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 F10 F9 C8 
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pipi123456: 19. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 C7 R14 R15 Q14 P17 F10 G10 F9 F11 E10 E11 D10 H8 Q6 R6 R7 R5 Q7 
pipi123456: white should play Q6 not R6. big different
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pipi123456: 2. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 F8 B17 H3 A16 G5 G4 H4 H5 J3 G6 F5 E5 F6 E6 F7 E7 M12 L12 L11 M13 M11 
GoGold: There's aji in the corner
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Animiral: white will not continue ko like this. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 B17 A15 D18 D19 
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Animiral: instead if black lives like this, w will do a happy dance for all the profit in sente. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 B17 D18 A15 
Animiral: There are numerous beginner books, but I would be hard-pressed to recommend any of them. The best way to learn is at your local Go club ^^
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pipi123456: 1. From move 0: Q16 D17 Q4 D3 C5 D8 D6 F4 B3 J4 C15 C12 F16 D15 D16 E16 C16 E17 E15 D14 C17 F17 F15 H17 B13 C14 B14 E12 H15 K16 G12 B12 K15 L15 K14 M16 L3 L14 E9 C18 B18 B17 B16 A18 A17 B19 A19 E8 G9 A18 C13 D13 A19 G8 H8 A18 D11 D12 A19 G7 C19 H9 G10 J8 C10 
Tschej: This variation looks 'too' good for black. Is that really what black could have archived?
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csessh: I thought you sacrifice pieces all the time in chess? 
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Animiral: timhunt, that looks like a nice solid book selection
Animiral: too bad mattkirk has left -__
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