(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[BGA Title Match]PW[Macfadyen Matthew]PB[Wang Hui]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2008-11-01]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AN[Jeff Chang]
;B[dd]
;W[cp]
;B[pd]
;W[qo]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hi ^^
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;B[pq]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: As usual, w played weird opening : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: R5 is kind of a challenge gesture, so b has to Q3, normally.
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;W[qj]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hmm, R10 is not what I thought. ^^  Normally when w chose R5 and b approach inside, w will choose pincer or taisha.
JeffChang [8d?\]: R10 means it'll probably be a long game
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;B[op]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: P4 is solid and similar meaning as O4 : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: If I were w, I would just Q7. As 7.5 komi, I'll be confident as w in that case.
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;W[ep]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: yeah that's also a choice
JeffChang [8d?\]: since komi is 7.5, I would consider invasion on the right side immediately, if I were b
JeffChang [8d?\]: yeah I know, I was told to use the moderated chat mode, sorry...
silver2k4 [?\]: r7 or r8?
JeffChang [8d?\]: R8 is more reasonable I think
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;B[cf]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: since w next move will probably be P5 anyway
JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe well, cannot agree with this move :D
JeffChang [8d?\]: if b wanna play on left side, which is big sure, it should have been at C10 at least, or even C9
JeffChang [8d?\]: so to restrict w bottom left corner
silver2k4 [?\]: ur nice jeff :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: ^^
silver2k4 [?\]: wait.. its not on the top of the active games?
JeffChang [8d?\]: it seems not, at least not yet : )
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;W[cj]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: as modern Go games today, w is already leading, have to say.
JeffChang [8d?\]: I didn't see any reason for b C14..
JeffChang [8d?\]: ^^  so R10 is quite an old opening : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: hmm, it's hard to compare bottom and C10, which is bigger at this moment. but of couse, the exchange C14 and C10, w leads already.
JeffChang [8d?\]: hoshi is used to extend on the side directly, so to get big spots on the board in the opening quickly
JeffChang [8d?\]: C14 is obviously opposite to this opening theory.
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;B[gq]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: w will definitely pincer now
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;W[jp]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: well I'm not sure about this pincer, just if I were w, I'd probably pincer 1line lower, at K3
JeffChang [8d?\]: but it's probably just different styles. : )
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;B[go]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: because, you need to consider that, next move b will probably jump
JeffChang [8d?\]: so theoretically, b this shape compare with a single w stone is stronger
JeffChang [8d?\]: therefore, don't be too close, that should be your choice : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: ^^
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;W[hp]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: tenuki is not an option for now, otherwise w won't pincer : )
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;B[gp]
;W[fn]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: w is aggressive 
JeffChang [8d?\]: locally it's a bit tough for b
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;B[io]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: now w just push up will be fine, get enhanced at the same time.
JeffChang [8d?\]: nope, K5
JeffChang [8d?\]: H4 stone is already light ^^
josette [2d\]: j4 is bad move can you explain why ?
silver2k4 [?\]: it makes w heavy
JeffChang [8d?\]: exactly : )
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(;W[hq]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: w should never consider to connect
JeffChang [8d?\]: oh...  but this is similar.
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;B[ho]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: honestly I don't understand w H3
JeffChang [8d?\]: now it's more like b is attacking w bottom group..
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;W[gr]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe, I appreciate fighters, but it should be, fighting for something useful, like liberty, democracy, human rights. ^^
silver2k4 [?\]: :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: H3 is fighting for what...  I have no idea ^^
Uberdude [3d?\]: this is w style, if you look in other games he often plays heavy to sopt opponent getting eyes
Uberdude [3d?\]: in the first game he saved some kikashi stone
JeffChang [8d?\]: aha ok, but in that case his own group will be in danger, kind of
JeffChang [8d?\]: now he hurts the corner
JeffChang [8d?\]: when b peeps, and w K5?  well then, if b wanna capture H4 stone, that's what w wants : )
josette [2d\]: you said k5 earlier but can you tell us what could have been the follow up please
JeffChang [8d?\]: maybe b is thinking about J4 push and cut now
JeffChang [8d?\]: though it's actually not necessary
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;B[ip]
;W[iq]
;B[fr]
;W[hr]
;B[eq]
;W[dq]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: J4 push but then not cut...   I don't understand again...
silver2k4 [?\]: maybe he didnt wanted wo to answer at k3 later?
JeffChang [8d?\]: but I didn't see when b will need the push..
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;B[dr]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: the only reason might be, well now M3 is kind of b sente
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;W[cr]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: if without the push, it's not
silver2k4 [?\]: can b m4 now?
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;B[gs]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: M4 is a choice too, yes
JeffChang [8d?\]: just it will be easier for w to live at bottom
JeffChang [8d?\]: and this hane...
JeffChang [8d?\]: if you see my face you'll know. ^^
JeffChang [8d?\]: I don't know how to comment :D
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;W[kq]
;B[cs]
;W[bs]
;B[ds]C[silver2k4 [?\]: this looks so small..
JeffChang [8d?\]: didn't see why b wanna help w to protect the cutting point
JeffChang [8d?\]: but well B1 is also a minor mistake, w should have just extended
JeffChang [8d?\]: now b got a solid eye
AurelienC [3d?\]: s3 ?
AurelienC [3d?\]: or o3 better ?
JeffChang [8d?\]: well if I were w
JeffChang [8d?\]: I really don't want b to get the corner by sente
JeffChang [8d?\]: it also means later around E5 there will be weakness
JeffChang [8d?\]: but it seems w will tenuki, right
JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe maybe, he wanna face to risks ^^
JeffChang [8d?\]: and uncertainty
PeteLiu [2p\]: hi
JeffChang [8d?\]: hi ^^
PeteLiu [2p\]: :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: what do you think about the game so far Peter?  
PeteLiu [2p\]: i prefer b
PeteLiu [2p\]: but still early
JeffChang [8d?\]: ah you prefer b?
PeteLiu [2p\]: K2 seems coll
PeteLiu [2p\]: hehe
JeffChang [8d?\]: I think a move at bototm is still necessary 
JeffChang [8d?\]: bottom*
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;W[jo]
;B[br]
;W[cq]C[PeteLiu [2p\]:  this atari quite big.
AurelienC [3d?\]: no too soon ?
AurelienC [3d?\]: not
JeffChang [8d?\]: right, if I were w, I won't B1 initially
PeteLiu [2p\]: and w should play o3 instead of  K5 
PeteLiu [2p\]: now E5 is serious
PeteLiu [2p\]: as a test move
JeffChang [8d?\]: I guess w K5 because he doesn't wanna connect when b peeps K2?
JeffChang [8d?\]: b is not alive yet ^^
Zureiyaa [-\]: if w played o3 instead of k5, does the nozoki matter so much anyway?
JeffChang [8d?\]: hmm, doesn't matter a lot, true
PeteLiu [2p\]: i mean b atari...
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;B[eo]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe ok it comes : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: yes
JeffChang [8d?\]: Please read the info of BGAadmin, thanks
BGAadmin [-\]: Matthew leads 2-1 in the series
JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe, I'm reading the variation if w F5 now ^^
Zureiyaa [-\]: I tried reading it too, but it seems complicated
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;W[fo]
;B[fp]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: :)
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;W[dp]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: well w wanna face to risks, as Uberdude has mentioned : )
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;B[im]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: :D
JeffChang [8d?\]: ah, b wanna avoid risks...
JeffChang [8d?\]: maybe it's good for us, like this the game became a long game again : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: well b E6 is actually a risky choice for both. 
PeteLiu [2p\]: now it's hard for w to find a good point in left side
Zureiyaa [-\]: I like black here, r8 is still open, k4 not complitely alive yet, and left side has lots of aji
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;W[fl]C[PeteLiu [2p\]: K6 :the only move
Zureiyaa [-\]: I don't like this shape, wouldn't it have been better to play solidly at e6 ?
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;B[jn]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: I don't agree with w F8 either
JeffChang [8d?\]: later D9 will be a problem
Zureiyaa [-\]: yes, I thought about it too
PeteLiu [2p\]: yes, but hard to find a good point here
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;W[lo]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: that's why I wouldn't have played f5 in the first place :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: F5 is possible, once the corner itself is alive.
JeffChang [8d?\]: after B2, the premise changed, so F5 shape became problematic
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;B[qp]
;W[po]
;B[rp]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: if I were b, i'd wanna D9 immediately :D
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;W[nc]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: r14 seems natural: take sente and invade at d9 or r8 
JeffChang [8d?\]: true, but it's like a fighter wounded, your fists won't be powerful then
JeffChang [8d?\]: to answer YogSothoth ^^
JeffChang [8d?\]: b thought top side is bigger, so he is thinking about pincer, I suppose
JeffChang [8d?\]: YogSothoth [1k\]: I don't think w is going to protect d9 soon, a move around e11 seems painful for a fighting player
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;B[qf]
;W[jd]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: Javaness, yes it is, w has many weaknesses though, R10 is not the biggest problem ^^
Beyonder [6d\]: anyway r8 seem biggest, cuz h3 is not alive yet either
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;B[dk]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: headache timing for w...
Zureiyaa [-\]: I'd have probably have done r8, and wait for another chance for d9, it would be hard for white to find a defending move there anyway
JeffChang [8d?\]: actually, as my point D9 is a bigger problem, since after b S4, the 2 w stones are relatively light
Zureiyaa [-\]: I don't see a way for white to win this game, anyway :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: but you're right, that even if w plays on the left side first, there is no good spot to defend
JeffChang [8d?\]: the fighting later in the game is unpredicted ^^  One mistake may change the whole situation : )
Zureiyaa [-\]: yes, it's not a pro game after all
JeffChang [8d?\]: ^^
JeffChang [8d?\]: I said w should be headache now, just because locally there is no good answer existing
Zureiyaa [-\]: white should have thought about this before playing f8 
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;W[ck]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: at that moment, if I were w, I'd think about a way, to make sure there is as less weaknesses as possible
JeffChang [8d?\]: so F8 is kind of, he doesn't care.
Zureiyaa [-\]: me too :)
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;B[fk]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hmm
Zureiyaa [-\]: this doesn't seem like a good plan..
JeffChang [8d?\]: I guess b thought, if w D8, he has E7 perfect move
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(;W[dm]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: sure, I don't know why he dare not D8..
Zureiyaa [-\]: now white got to defend his weakness for free
Zureiyaa [-\]: and black only got meaningless stones
JeffChang [8d?\]: yeah
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;B[gl]C[Beyonder [6d\]: maybe b is afriad of losing
JeffChang [8d?\]: top side is surely big, yes
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;W[fm]C[PeteLiu [2p\]: H17
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;B[ql]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: E17 is slow, at least won't be my choice : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: invading here is also an option, just hope b won't help w fix the weakness again :p
Zureiyaa [-\]: hehe
JeffChang [8d?\]: if b H17, probably w will answer at O15, aiming to R17 and D17
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;W[pm]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: ah, b has to continue, or the invasion will be meaningless
JeffChang [8d?\]: R8 is to seperate and further attack
Beyonder [6d\]: q8 no need to think..
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;B[pl]
;W[ol]
;B[pj]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: hmm..
JeffChang [8d?\]: w cannot save everything, has to be realistic
JeffChang [8d?\]: I doubt about the directin of w Q7, which hurts R10 stone a lot..
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;W[pi]C[Beyonder [6d\]: haha
JeffChang [8d?\]: ah...
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;B[ok]C[PeteLiu [2p\]: ..
Beyonder [6d\]: so unreasonable..
JeffChang [8d?\]: figher, really...
Zureiyaa [-\]: :|
PeteLiu [2p\]: Q7 very bad move
Zureiyaa [-\]: no way for white to win this game
Zureiyaa [-\]: 15 points of territory and weak groups more than I can count
Tiesto [3d\]: was q8 better than q7?
Beyonder [6d\]: as jeffchang mentioned earlier, q5 and r5 is kinda light so maybe w chould have sacrificed them just..
Zureiyaa [-\]: but still hard to find the proper move
JeffChang [8d?\]: well Q8 is at least better than Q7, since R10 values a lot more than the other 2 stones
Beyonder [6d\]: even if its hard to find something good, just strengthen the r10 and grab sente in upperleft
Beyonder [6d\]: should be ok
Beyonder [6d\]: w already gained on leftside 
Beyonder [6d\]: but now its over..
JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe, I don't think it's over yet. In tournaments everything is possible ^^  that' my experience
JeffChang [8d?\]: but it's very tough for w, yes
Beyonder [6d\]: but how can w find a move..
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;W[qh]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: it seems, w wanna save 3 groups at the same time
Beyonder [6d\]: ^^
Beyonder [6d\]: and kill something basically, to have enough :p
Tiesto [3d\]: just make a 4th group to surround b and kill him
Zureiyaa [-\]: :) a kyu strategy
JeffChang [8d?\]: my focus locks at O6 next
JeffChang [8d?\]: well I feel like, probably w played too many handicap games.
Zureiyaa [-\]: I used to have that problem too, created too many groups :)
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;B[om]
;W[nl]
;B[nm]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: now I have no idea how w can continue fighting..
JeffChang [8d?\]: initially b P7 is not the strongest move, which gave w a way, to survive first and at least continue this game.
JeffChang [8d?\]: if w wins this game, it could be a legend.
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;W[mm]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: as I said, if I were b, I would O6, seperate and attack w whole group
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;B[nk]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: P7 is like, he is satisfied by capturing one stone and gets stronger himself
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;W[ml]
;B[oo]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: I guess
JeffChang [8d?\]: w will O11, taking sente then R17, to attack top right corner
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;W[hm]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: where do you think black would play after o11?
Zureiyaa [-\]: oh
Zureiyaa [-\]: is this really good plan to fight near the few weak groups of his own..
JeffChang [8d?\]: well b can just extend I thin
JeffChang [8d?\]: think*
JeffChang [8d?\]: initially there is G9 cutting point anyway, so those stones are small
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;B[ik]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: yeah but I mean, b can just escape now, and no need to care about G8, F9 and D9 stones
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;W[hl]C[quickgame [2d\]: yes but perhaps escape towards the new found w influence?
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;B[kk]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe perhaps : )
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;W[mk]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: about H6, it's w sente any time, so no need to play for now, also without that exchange, in the future w may need L6 sente for eye shape
winsome2 [3d\]: o11 or p11 better>
winsome2 [3d\]: ??
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;B[pb]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: I'd just simply P11 if I were b
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(;W[hk]C[winsome2 [3d\]: is this correct   regarding q11 as ws problem?
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;B[ij]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: H9 seems a bit problematic. since he lost the peep at tengen..
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;W[nj]
;B[rm]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: well now w makes most of his groups alive, but he only has left side as territory
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;W[km]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b leads a lot, and centre group is not easy of being attacked
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;B[il]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: if b won't make big mistake, it should be b's easy victory
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;W[hi]
;B[hj]
;W[gj]C[maligo [4d\]: se says w+7.5
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;B[jh]C[maligo [4d\]: but b seems ahead
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;W[db]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: w still has M17 weakness, I cannot imagine w gets big top side
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;B[dc]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[cc]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b's tactic is clear, he just wanna defend his domain and maintain his leading
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;W[fc]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: and w is trying his best to mess up the whole situation, though it seems tough
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;B[gi]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: F17 wanna emphasize on C18 connection, so to threat b corner
JeffChang [8d?\]: if G17, it means later b blocks at B17, there will be some weakness around F18, if w wanna save B18 stone
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;W[fj]
;B[gh]
;W[hf]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: M17 is surely what b wants, so for w, he wants to go N16 next, or since he is behind, maybe even P18
JeffChang [8d?\]: well, just protect J13 will be fine
JeffChang [8d?\]: if I were b ^^
quickgame [2d\]: yes i was thinking the same :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: but it is true that G12 is a questionable move, which made w H14 sente
BGAadmin [-\]: Hui Wang will make the sealed move - then we go to lunch
JeffChang [8d?\]: H16 is possible for b, yes
JeffChang [8d?\]: I think b should just J13, helpful for like J15 next ^^
JeffChang [8d?\]: if b J13, well w has to ignore, and plays around P18, otherwise w won't have enough
JeffChang [8d?\]: ah just 1 hour. we gonna restart at 14:00 GMT I think. : )
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;B[lc]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: ok
JeffChang [8d?\]: so now w has to H12
JeffChang [8d?\]: well, w just played H14, threating to escape H11 stone, also more or less threat b big group
JeffChang [8d?\]: now b ignored, so logically w has to H12
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;W[pe]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe, w just did his best to mess up the situation
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;B[qe]
;W[od]
;B[oc]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: I don't think it's possible for w to attack b's big group anyway
JeffChang [8d?\]: once b doesn't care about G12 2 stones
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;W[ob]
;B[pc]
;W[kc]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: the only hope for w, is to make b this group heavier, and kill it all.
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;B[ld]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: however it's not quite possible
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;W[ne]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: if now, b is thinking about, how to safely get connection only, it might be problematic
JeffChang [8d?\]: for instance, L14, then w will have chance, to K13 then crosscut, crazy way to make it complicated
JeffChang [8d?\]: well, then initially b shouldn't have extended M16
JeffChang [8d?\]: as my reading
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(;B[ic]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hmm, still b doesn't wanna take risk, J17 is also an option here
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;W[kb]
;B[gd]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: It seems the game will be over soon
JeffChang [8d?\]: now it's simple, cos w has no way to capture J17, G16 group
JeffChang [8d?\]: about this game, well in the opening I have to say both players made some mistakes.
JeffChang [8d?\]: for b, mainly G1 is hard to understand
JeffChang [8d?\]: C14 is a slow move but a minor mistake
JeffChang [8d?\]: for w, firstly B1 then tenuki is questionable
JeffChang [8d?\]: then, F8 is a problematic way to protect his left side, which leaves D9 weakness
JeffChang [8d?\]: b's assault on the left is not successful either though, since F9 is a simple misread
JeffChang [8d?\]: but then, on the right side, after b's invasion, w played Q7 then hane, which could be described as losing moves, making R10 into tough situation
JeffChang [8d?\]: then b just played solid, and it seems w doesn't have chance.
JeffChang [8d?\]: So, those are what I thought about this game as a whole : )
winsome2 [3d\]: thx  i suppose w has to h18 now
JeffChang [8d?\]: ^^
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;W[jf]
;B[gc]
;W[hh]
;B[lh]C[quickgame [2d\]: this helps protect both this b group and g17 from useless f16 kind of chase?
JeffChang [8d?\]: mainly, to live his own group
JeffChang [8d?\]: so b has no weakness, only need to wait then ^^
quickgame [2d\]: ^^
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;W[fd]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: w last try
JeffChang [8d?\]: the thing is, if w only gets connection, it's not enough
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;B[ge]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: so I guess it'll be like
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(;W[fe]C[quickgame [2d\]: f15 g14 e14 h13 j13 g13 j15 j14 k15 ?
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;B[gf]
;W[ef]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: it should be noted, that once w get J12, there is still a bit possibility, that cenre group is not alive
JeffChang [8d?\]: also, G13 is not an absolute sente
JeffChang [8d?\]: since top right is not 100% safe yet
JeffChang [8d?\]: as my reading, D13 seems no problem
JeffChang [8d?\]: g13 is similar meaning as h13, and only better than h13 : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: because theoretically
JeffChang [8d?\]: just now the problem is, as I said, G13 may not be sente at this moment
JeffChang [8d?\]: if top left corner will not die :p
JeffChang [8d?\]: so as my reading, D13 is the safest move ^^
quickgame [2d\]: in 9d reading, we trust ;p
JeffChang [8d?\]: :D
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(;B[dg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b must save his groups ^^
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;W[eg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: still, hane first is safest way
JeffChang [8d?\]: to be safe, you need to put the opponent into prison first :D
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;B[hg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: now it might be a game again?
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(;W[ca]C[winsome2 [3d\]: would c12 after c18 be ok?
JeffChang [8d?\]: c18?
JeffChang [8d?\]: b just block should be fine, it's seki locally
winsome2 [3d\]: Wc18 Bc12
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;B[eh]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b made it complicated now..
JeffChang [8d?\]: now if w cut, it seems he has a bit chance
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(;W[dh]
;B[ch]
(;W[di]
;B[ei]
(;W[bc]
;B[bd]
;W[be]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: well B17 is not the best
JeffChang [8d?\]: lost many possible variations
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;B[ae]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: but still, b is in danger now. b may lose this game... 
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;W[ce]
;B[de]
;W[bh]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: anyway, E12 is the mistake locally. If b blocks at B17 first, b is alive, then no problem for b at all
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;B[ci]
;W[dj]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: now it's semiai
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(;B[bf]
;W[gb]
;B[hb]
;W[ga]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: ok this is probably the only possible way for w to make the semiai
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;B[ej]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: semeai*    sorry
JeffChang [8d?\]: well as my reading, it's seki, or all alive anyway
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;W[gk]
;B[gg]
;W[bg]
;B[ba]
;W[cg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: why confused?
JeffChang [8d?\]: semeai= capture race, something like
JeffChang [8d?\]: b can choose D19 now sure
JeffChang [8d?\]: then M14, so w can resign
]
;B[da]
;W[df]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: c16 is more than 10 points reverse sente, huge, but I still think M14 is bigger
JeffChang [8d?\]: cos then w whole top side will be in danger
]
;B[ke]
;W[mb]
;B[oa]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: if I were w, I gonna A14 first anyway
]
;W[og]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: but well b wins this game
]
;B[nb]
;W[mc]
;B[lb]
;W[af]
;B[ab]
;W[la]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: I don't think b will play the ko since he is leading, that's why he should have C16, considered b already saved 2 stones by sente
JeffChang [8d?\]: as for points it's close, but it's b's move, and b is stronger on the board
JeffChang [8d?\]: w L18 to P13 that group is quite weak
JeffChang [8d?\]: K15 seems quite big, and it's reverse sente
]
;B[mr]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: N2 is big, and I guess b aims to K2 next
]
;W[kg]
;B[lg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: then take profit from L6 weakness
]
;W[lf]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: hi again
JeffChang [8d?\]: b 3 stones will die
JeffChang [8d?\]: so now we'll see what b can get from bottom
JeffChang [8d?\]: if not much, then w gains
JeffChang [8d?\]: it seems b cannot get much at bottom, so N2 is a vital mistake
JeffChang [8d?\]: the N19 ko is also heavy to b
JeffChang [8d?\]: but considered the situation now, if I were b, I'd play ko, yes.
JeffChang [8d?\]: it was almost over this game, but P19 and N2 two mistakes, now it's quite close again.
]
(;B[kd]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: oh
Zureiyaa [-\]: interesting
JeffChang [8d?\]: yeah b decides to play the ko now
Zureiyaa [-\]: b took his time so I guess he knows what he's doing
]
;W[kf]
;B[ma]
;W[na]C[ondskap [11k\]: passive maybe then, well great fun watching these event's take care!
]
(;B[jc]
;W[ob]
;B[jb]
;W[pa]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: hmm, is this enough for black?
JeffChang [8d?\]: ok, so it's a trade like this
JeffChang [8d?\]: have to count again...
]
;B[rb]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: well S18 is a mistake again...  surely R18
Zureiyaa [-\]: yes
Zureiyaa [-\]: hmm, I guess it's rather even, I think white will win by few points
]
;W[rk]
;B[md]
;W[nd]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b won't gain any points from B3
JeffChang [8d?\]: well it seems w leads now
]
;B[rg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: there is some weakness around L6, but w can easily sacrifice K5 two stones
]
;W[qm]
;B[rl]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: now since b dare not save P9 when w atari. there is no N10 cutting point, L6 won't be a problem for w at all
JeffChang [8d?\]: right, locally a semidori
JeffChang [8d?\]: semedori*
]
;W[qn]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: painful for black again
JeffChang [8d?\]: R6 is a good move
JeffChang [8d?\]: so now w can capture P9 3 stones in sente
Uberdude [3d?\]: w is good at winning lost games =)
JeffChang [8d?\]: well this is a victory I cannot believe.
Zureiyaa [-\]: I wish I was playing black instead ^^ not anymore of course, but after the fuseki :)
Uberdude [3d?\]: L12 for later with p9 capture
JeffChang [8d?\]: there are several times I thought w should resign
Uberdude [3d?\]: and w makes some points in middle with his formerly thin weak group
JeffChang [8d?\]: b cannot afford this ko at P6 though
JeffChang [8d?\]: oh sorry I'm too sleepy...  so now b has to play the ko?
JeffChang [8d?\]: ok, so ko is the must...
]
(;B[mo]C[TonyTiger [3d?\]: how much would black be ahead if there were no ko?
]
;W[sn]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: he wouldn't
Zureiyaa [-\]: and this settles the game
JeffChang [8d?\]: so finally it's over : )
JeffChang [8d?\]: even if without this ko, b is still behind
]
;B[pp]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: q9 r9 t8 
]
;W[sl]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: ok this will do too :)
JeffChang [8d?\]: ok thanks for your watching my friends ; )
JeffChang [8d?\]: not yet, but it is de facto
Zureiyaa [-\]: thanks for commentaries :)
quickgame [2d\]: thanks alot, jeff! :)
Piggen [6k\]: thx jeff =D
Uberdude [3d?\]: thanks jeff
shuteye [10k\]: thank you jeff
fetagaia [2k\]: Thanks Jeff
JeffChang [8d?\]: don't understand, how can b lost this game 
Svejk [-\]: Thank you Jeff.
JeffChang [8d?\]: I know neither of them, but I'm disappointed now still
tetlamp [8k\]: thx
geoff2: Many thanks for your great commentary!
Piggen [6k\]: b resign!
JeffChang [8d?\]: It's already over, b resigned
JeffChang [8d?\]: so Mathew wins the title 3-1
ondskap [11k\]: great commentary, did black play to defensive?
ondskap [11k\]: after gaining the lead early on
JeffChang [8d?\]: well not defensive, just, he missed many chances to win, so got punished
ondskap [11k\]: ok :)
])
(;B[on]
;W[sn]
(;B[sm]
;W[qk])
(;B[sl]
;W[qk]
;B[so]
;W[pk])))
(;B[co]
;W[do]
;B[ma]C[Goreon [1d\]: a16
]
(;W[ka]
;B[me]
;W[na]
;B[mf]
;W[ob]
;B[jc])
(;W[ad]
;B[ka]
;W[cd]
;B[mf]
;W[me]
(;B[ng])
(;B[mg]
;W[le]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[ng]
;W[pf]
;B[pg]
;W[oe]
;B[oh]C[Goreon [1d\]: ooh
JeffChang [8d?\]: at least like this it's still complicated
]))
(;W[hn]
;B[in]
;W[na]
;B[bq]
(;W[ob]
;B[bp]
(;W[dn]
;B[nb]
;W[ma]
;B[bn])
(;W[pa]
(;B[dn]
;W[qb]
;B[dl]
;W[cm])
(;B[qb]
;W[dn]
;B[bn]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b's victory like this
])))
(;W[bp]
;B[ma]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: ok
JeffChang [8d?\]: my conclusion can only be
JeffChang [8d?\]: like this w cannot avoid the complexity
JeffChang [8d?\]: so either a big trade, or another big ko
JeffChang [8d?\]: big trade means
]
;W[ad]
;B[ka]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: w won't play o12 honte :p
]
;W[cd]
;B[mf]
(;W[oj]
;B[pk]
(;W[nh]
;B[me]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: this is the trade
JeffChang [8d?\]: didn't count what if like this
Goreon [1d\]: w k15 not big enough ion the situation before?
])
(;W[rk]
(;B[ng])
(;B[rl]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: hehe right
JeffChang [8d?\]: but I mean, if w doesn't wanna play the big ko
])
(;B[pn]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: cos if w resists
JeffChang [8d?\]: ok so
]
(;W[me]
;B[mg]
;W[le]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[ng]
;W[pf]
;B[pg]
;W[oe]
;B[oh]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: then it's big ko
])
(;W[rg]
;B[nh]
;W[oh]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: b wins right?
JeffChang [8d?\]: if like this I mean
sarlina [-\]: yes
JeffChang [8d?\]: yeah it is
]))))
(;W[me]
;B[mg]
;W[le]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[ng]
;W[pf]
;B[pg]
;W[oe]
;B[oh]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: this is an inevitable ko for both
]
;W[ph]
;B[of]
;W[ja]
(;B[og]
;W[la])
(;B[la]
;W[og]
;B[qg]
;W[nh]
;B[of]C[sarlina [-\]: no need
JeffChang [8d?\]: so b should win, still
sarlina [-\]: maybe better with p11?
JeffChang [8d?\]: ?
sarlina [-\]: ah mr ^^
sarlina [-\]: sry
JeffChang [8d?\]: well
JeffChang [8d?\]: so b's threat is too small in the game
JeffChang [8d?\]: almost the only way resulted to losing
JeffChang [8d?\]: ok anyway, time for dinner :D
JeffChang [8d?\]: didn't have lunch yet in fact :P
JeffChang [8d?\]: see ya around guys ^^
]))))))
(;B[kf]
;W[le]
;B[jg]
;W[kd]
;B[jr]
;W[kr]
;B[kn]
;W[ln]
;B[ko]
;W[kp]
;B[lp]
;W[mp]))
(;B[bf]
;W[bi]
;B[gb]
;W[cg]
;B[df]
;W[ac]
;B[fb]
;W[ec]
;B[ff]
;W[ee]
;B[fg]
;W[ad]
;B[af]
;W[bg]
;B[aa]
;W[ba]
;B[da]
;W[ea]
;B[fa]
;W[ag]
;B[ig]))
(;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[bd]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: this is the best
]
;B[cd]
;W[df]
(;B[cg]
;W[bc]
;B[de]
;W[gb]
;B[bi]
;W[ig])
(;B[bc]
;W[cg]
;B[bf]
;W[ig]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: ^^
])))
(;W[di]
;B[ei]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[bd]
;B[de]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[bc]
;B[cd]
;W[gb]))
(;W[dh]
;B[ei]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[bd]
;B[de]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[bc]
;B[cd]
;W[ch]))
(;W[eh]
;B[ig]
;W[ca]
;B[bc]
;W[bg]
;B[bf]
;W[bh]
(;B[bd])
(;B[ba]
;W[aa]
;B[ac]
;W[da]
;B[bd]
;W[ce]
;B[de]
;W[ae]
;B[af]
;W[be]
;B[df]))
(;W[ig]
;B[gg]
;W[eh]
;B[ih]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: as my rough reading, top right will be a seki
JeffChang [8d?\]: like this
JeffChang [8d?\]: have to read it again
JeffChang [8d?\]: w must kill in this case
JeffChang [8d?\]: seki is not enough
]
;W[ca]
;B[bc]
;W[bg]
;B[bf]))
(;B[hg]
;W[ig]
;B[gg]
;W[ih]
;B[eg]
;W[ji]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: w can hane here then
])
(;B[gg]
;W[ih]
;B[jg]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: and now this is b's sente
JeffChang [8d?\]: so
]
;W[if]
;B[eg]
;W[ji]
;B[ii]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: now b can cut
quickgame [2d\]: oh so much better!
JeffChang [8d?\]: that's the difference
])
(;B[dg]
;W[eg]
;B[eh]
;W[dh]
;B[ei]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
(;W[bd]
;B[de])
(;W[de]
;B[bd])))
(;W[fe]
;B[gf]
;W[ef]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: the only way which may make it a bit more complicated
]))
(;B[me]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: if b goes here first
JeffChang [8d?\]: threating to hane O14
JeffChang [8d?\]: w has to answer
]
;W[nf]
;B[je]
;W[ie]
;B[jf]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: like this, this is the simplist way
]))
(;W[jj]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: without H9 J10 exchange, this peep is quite powerful an attack
]))
(;W[dl]
;B[em]C[popolo [7d\]: d7 simplest ?
])
(;W[dm]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: yes
JeffChang [8d?\]: right
Zureiyaa [-\]: seems like white woul be happy with this result
]))
(;W[jo]
;B[in]
;W[km]C[JeffChang [8d?\]: this is the variation in my mind, simply.
JeffChang [8d?\]: I think that's natural for both
josette [2d\]: that's good enough for w ok
josette [2d\]: thx
JeffChang [8d?\]: yes ^^
]))
